CLAT 2012 university list may contain errors that will be fixed ‘judiciously’ in June, says NLU-J VC

Mathur: To act judiciously and avoid injustice
Mathur: To act judiciously and avoid injustice

Candidates’ university allocation in the 2012 Common Law Admissions Test (CLAT) would be reshuffled in June as human error may have caused mistakes and around 125 future students have submitted complaints, said Justice NN Mathur, vice chancellor of NLU Jodhpur and convenor of the 2012 CLAT, adding that the process would be carried out “judiciously”.

Legally India reported on Tuesday (29 May) that the CLAT university allotment list, which was published on Monday, was criticised by a number of test takers who claimed that their preferences had not been taken into account. The list was later that day removed for download from the official CLAT website.

“Human error may be there [in the allocation list] and when there are representations - even when there is a single representation - I am supposed to look into that,” Mathur told Legally India today by phone.

He noted that between 125 to 130 representations from CLAT applicants had been received to date by NLU Jodhpur. “I have asked my office to look into each and every representation and complete the process and if necessary [to reshuffle].”

Reshuffling was a “regular” and “continuing process” that would take place in the full month of June, he said.

“There may be change of a law school [for some students] – that must be looked into it if students were not given [allocations] as per their merit and performance,” he noted. “I don’t want to do injustice of a single student.”

“Suppose some have preferred or have given NUJS and by mistake it has gone to Patna or Lucknow or somewhere, judiciously we will look into it. I can’t keep my eyes closed on it.”

Any fees that students deposited for admission in a college would be transferred to another college if the allocation preferences were changed, added Mathur.

He admitted that “there may be one or two” cases where students would be reshuffled into a college that they listed as a lower preference.

Mathur also noted that the published CLAT scores were calculated out of 200 marks, as originally envisaged, and not 170 as had been speculated by some CLAT applicants and observers online after a writ petition was filed in the Delhi high court, alleging that questions asked in the paper were not part of the syllabus.

That writ was dismissed by the court on Saturday (26 May), while a second petition in the Allahabad high court will still be heard.

Note: CLAT takers interested in making representations about their university allocation can do so by writing an email to , said Mathur.

Comments

Varaprad 31 May 2012, 08:25
+2 -1
Thanks to LegallyIndia and also Justice Mathur for clearing the air on the issue.
ILLEGAL 31 May 2012, 10:43
+1 -0
Exactly why are we thanking Mathur ?? He's the one who should he held liable for the whole goddamned mess ..... I did not write CLAT this time but I do know what I would have done if I had been in the same situation as the 26000 affected people. There was injustice - of a grave nature ..... And for that Mathur should be punished severely.
ana 31 May 2012, 11:03
+2 -0
what about the allahbad high court PIL? whats the verdict?
Antara 31 May 2012, 15:32
+1 -1
[quote name="ana"]what about the allahbad high court PIL? whats the verdict?[/quote]
My dear fellow, it is extremely unlikely that the court will come up a verdict this soon. You have too much faith on our justice system :)
ana 1 Jun 2012, 04:25
+1 -1
[quote name="Antara"][quote name="ana"]what about the allahbad high court PIL? whats the verdict?[/quote]
My dear fellow, it is extremely unlikely that the court will come up a verdict this soon. You have too much faith on our justice system :)[/quote]


but ma'am i just want to know if there is any chance at all..i took clat this year and missed out by 4 marks..thanks to the questions about camel fairs and ostriches...i just want to know if what happnd yesterday and what do you think will happen..
Antara 1 Jun 2012, 04:53
+0 -0
[quote name="ana"][quote name="Antara"][quote name="ana"]what about the allahbad high court PIL? whats the verdict?[/quote]
My dear fellow, it is extremely unlikely that the court will come up a verdict this soon. You have too much faith on our justice system :)[/quote]


but ma'am i just want to know if there is any chance at all..i took clat this year and missed out by 4 marks..thanks to the questions about camel fairs and ostriches...i just want to know if what happnd yesterday and what do you think will happen..[/quote]
Not much...just like the other petitions leveled against CLAT in the previous years. Now that the revised allotment list is out, students will take admission as usual and all allegations will be brushed underneath the carpet gradually, unless somebody with clout in higher ministry levels can push for a centralized CLAT.
Suits 31 May 2012, 08:39
+1 -0
Kudos to Legally India for finally clearing some of the confusion!
saurav dutta 31 May 2012, 09:06
+5 -0
and kudos for screwing up clat too.
Arnab 31 May 2012, 15:31
+0 -0
[quote name="saurav dutta"]and kudos for screwing up clat too.[/quote]
Hear, hear :D
kianganz 31 May 2012, 09:27
+3 -0
By the way, those interested in making representations about their allocation can do so at [s][/s] [correction - see below]

Best wishes,
Kian
Varaprad 31 May 2012, 10:39
+0 -0
That email id is incorrect. It is
kianganz 31 May 2012, 10:43
+0 -0
Thanks Varaprad - I must have been sent an incorrect one.
student 31 May 2012, 10:07
+5 -0
why does this website ignore LLM students. It's really important to know that LLM admissions are at a hault. Nothing is happening. I scored a good rank in CLAT LLM entrance but when i called up the NLS people in bangalore they had no idea about how the admissions would be conducted. All i got from them was a brief silence and then then they asked me to wait. Similar is the case with nalsar people.

What are these people paid for? May be for messing up things.

If any of the organisers of Clat 2012 are reading this please resign from your posts and do some good to the country and if you cant atleast render an apoplgy to all the clat 2012 aspirants.


Please do not play* with the lives of people.

*FQ is the word
Nalsar 31 May 2012, 11:29
+4 -0
Hahahahaha... poor LLMs!
MASTERCHEF 31 May 2012, 15:13
+0 -0
Uncle, if anything, 5 years at a law school should've taught you that ranting about your problems on teh internet rarely helps :P

Ab jhelo bhaiya..aur karo LLM! lololol
Another student 1 Jun 2012, 07:21
+0 -0
[quote name="student"]why does this website ignore LLM students. It's really important to know that LLM admissions are at a hault. Nothing is happening. I scored a good rank in CLAT LLM entrance but when i called up the NLS people in bangalore they had no idea about how the admissions would be conducted. All i got from them was a brief silence and then then they asked me to wait. Similar is the case with nalsar people.

What are these people paid for? May be for messing up things.

If any of the organisers of Clat 2012 are reading this please resign from your posts and do some good to the country and if you cant atleast render an apoplgy to all the clat 2012 aspirants.


Please do not play* with the lives of people.

*FQ is the word[/quote]

I'm applying for LLM too. Tried calling the CLAT numbers, no one answers. Mailed the CLAT helpdesk, no reply. On top of it, the NLS-B website states that applications for LLM have to be submitted by 9th June. What is going on?
anandpmishra 31 May 2012, 10:07
+3 -0
Never imagined that the CLAT committee comprising Vice-chancellors of 14 National Law Universities & the implementation committee having Registrars of these 14 Law schools could be so negligent and inefficient..First, they failed to provide a CLAT paper as per their own notification and then they failed to bring an error-free result. NLU Jodhpur further failed as a good organising University. CLAT 2012 is a blow to the respected 'CLAT' brand which is still in the making, it is still too small compared to major UG entrance exams of the country. Now, NLU Delhi can defend that it was right in conducting its own entrance test, and NLUO Orissa can think it was a mistake to become a part of CLAT...High time to create a better, permanent body for CLAT exams than leaving CLAT at the mercy of an ad-hoc team and one organising university!
ILLEGAL 31 May 2012, 10:58
+1 -0
So .... The Convener admits that there could be errors in a "Computer- generated" calculation program. Correct me if I am wrong - but isn't the calculation of the marks and separation of ranks also done by a "Computer-Generated" program ?? Normally, I would have suggested using RTI ..... But oh Snap!! Clat OMR sheets are marked using pencils and oh-so-easily-changeable -- The RTI would never serve any purpose !!
Student 31 May 2012, 11:24
+2 -0
[quote name="ILLEGAL"]So .... The Convener admits that there could be errors in a "Computer- generated" calculation program. Correct me if I am wrong - but isn't the calculation of the marks and separation of ranks also done by a "Computer-Generated" program ?? Normally, I would have suggested using RTI ..... But oh Snap!! Clat OMR sheets are marked using pencils and oh-so-easily-changeable -- The RTI would never serve any purpose !![/quote]

Yes, there have been errors, but there's no need to get cynical. Show some faith. The CLAT committee have more to do than sit an erase pencil marks. So,instead of sitting on your ass, go and file that RTI if you have to.
Sourav 31 May 2012, 15:35
+2 -0
[quote name="Student"][quote name="ILLEGAL"]So .... The Convener admits that there could be errors in a "Computer- generated" calculation program. Correct me if I am wrong - but isn't the calculation of the marks and separation of ranks also done by a "Computer-Generated" program ?? Normally, I would have suggested using RTI ..... But oh Snap!! Clat OMR sheets are marked using pencils and oh-so-easily-changeable -- The RTI would never serve any purpose !![/quote]

Yes, there have been errors, but there's no need to get cynical. Show some faith. The CLAT committee have more to do than sit an erase pencil marks. So,instead of sitting on your ass, go and file that RTI if you have to.[/quote]
Indeed, the extent of their duties and their dedication towards it have really been exemplary in course of this year's CLAT! :P
ILLEGAL 1 Jun 2012, 06:25
+0 -0
[quote name="Sourav"][quote name="Student"][quote name="ILLEGAL"]So .... The Convener admits that there could be errors in a "Computer- generated" calculation program. Correct me if I am wrong - but isn't the calculation of the marks and separation of ranks also done by a "Computer-Generated" program ?? Normally, I would have suggested using RTI ..... But oh Snap!! Clat OMR sheets are marked using pencils and oh-so-easily-changeable -- The RTI would never serve any purpose !![/quote]

Yes, there have been errors, but there's no need to get cynical. Show some faith. The CLAT committee have more to do than sit an erase pencil marks. So,instead of sitting on your ass, go and file that RTI if you have to.[/quote]
Indeed, the extent of their duties and their dedication towards it have really been exemplary in course of this year's CLAT! :P[/quote]

See ..... Here's the thing ..... If I was this inconvenienced, I would have filed an RTI ..... But, as things stand, I wrote CLAT last year and am very happy in NLSIU ..... However, that itself does not stop or inhibit me from pointing out the inherent flaws in the system. Come on now. Have you even seen the paper ..... It's what is defined as misrepresentation or fraud in legal terms. The CLAT committee needs to make amends. Period. What they are doing is that they are messing with people's lives and that, Sir, is just not acceptable.
PR 31 May 2012, 11:18
+2 -0
Good work LI..Just a suggestion, since the Hon'ble VC has been a former High Court Judge, you could have added Justice to his surname every time you quoted him in this Article. “Said Mathur”, “Mathur told” and “Added Mathur” is slightly horrible.
JJ 31 May 2012, 12:04
+0 -0
I totally agree. Referring to an ex-CJ of a High Court only by his last name is highly inappropriate. I am sure this was inadvertent but please correct it.
FYI 31 May 2012, 13:27
+0 -0
Mr. Mathur has never been a CJ of any of the HC in India.
kianganz 31 May 2012, 12:23
+9 -0
Thanks for your feedback but I disagree.

We've had this discussion before in a similar context of a judge and it is our house style, as well as that of many other newspapers and publications, to use a honorific or first name only the first time a person is mentioned in a story, but not the on subsequent mentions, irrespective of whether that person is a seneior advocate, a judge, a president, or a king.

No disrespect is intended (nor I assume perceived by Justice Mathur), but the editorial reason for the rule is intentional.

Best wishes
Kian
Sourav 31 May 2012, 15:36
+0 -0
[quote name="kianganz"]Thanks for your feedback but I disagree.

We've had this discussion before in a similar context of a judge and it is our house style, as well as that of many other newspapers and publications, to use a honorific or first name only the first time a person is mentioned in a story, but not the on subsequent mentions, irrespective of whether that person is a seneior advocate, a judge, a president, or a king.

No disrespect is intended (nor I assume perceived by Justice Mathur), but the editorial reason for the rule is intentional.

Best wishes
Kian[/quote]
Good answer, Kian...he's not been knighted or anything, why should an exception be made for him?
IndianDarKnight 31 May 2012, 11:26
+1 -0
Well,if there is a problem in the computer generated database then there could be a problem in the marks too.... I do believe there is something wrong with the marks.
1- How can the maximum marks be only 159,when most students found it easy?
2- The esteemed VC says there COULD be errors,is he flabbergasted? He shouldn't be.Around 150 representations have already been made.

Ultimately,the quality of administration,education and opportunity is decreasing because of such "human errors"
Hitesh Mehta 31 May 2012, 11:36
+3 -0
NEGLIGENCE AT ITS PEAK....NEARLY 26000 STUDENTS APPEARED IN THE COMMON LAW ADMISSION TEST THIS YEAR AND NEARLY ONE FOURTH OF THE PAPER APPEARED TO BE OUT OF THE SYLLABUS.NLU JODHPUR FAILED TO PROVE ITS STATURE WHILE CONDUCTING THE EXAM. THOUGH THE QUESTIONS APPEARED OUT OF HE SYLLABUS BUT STILL THE STUDENTS FOUND IT TO BE EXTREMELY EASY. EVEN THEN THE HIGHEST MARKS ARE JUST 159.NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL IN A PAPER WHERE THE HIGHEST MARKS WERE EXPECTED TO GO TO 180 &THE CUTOFFS FOR TOP COLLEGES LIKE NLS BANGALORE SEEMED TO GO TO 160. IF THE ALLOTMENT IS PREPARED AGAIN THEN THE MARKS SHOULD ALSO BE VERIFIED AS MANY STUDENTS IN THE COUNTRY ARE DEMANDING...
Anon 1 Jun 2012, 07:22
+0 -0
NLIU > NUJS.

Reaction : HAHAHA
Awaaz 1 Jun 2012, 10:30
+3 -0
NUJS = a law school?
Reaction: Hahahaha *farts loudly*

Love,
NLIU
PR 1 Jun 2012, 12:13
+1 -0
[quote name="Anon"]NLIU > NUJS.

Reaction : HAHAHA[/quote]
[quote name="Awaaz"]NUJS = a law school?
Reaction: Hahahaha *farts loudly*

Love,
NLIU[/quote]

Justice Mathur would be so proud of you guys..
Lame 2 Jun 2012, 08:05
+0 -0
I think it was in great taste :)
sagar gehlot 2 Jun 2012, 08:51
+0 -0
sogoood
NLUJ 8 Jun 2012, 11:57
+0 -0
This guy is the worst administrator NLU, Jodhpur has ever seen, the college is out of control (with banned substances etc.).

And to top it all of his claim to fame is that he has awarded the maximum death penalty amongst all judges!

Law Schools need administrators, not Judges!