The Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) 2013 results have been announced for 27,627 national law university LLB aspirants and 1242 LLM aspirants.
Top under-graduate (UG) list ranker Dhruv Murari Gandhi has obtained 160.75 out of 200 marks, while introducing 25 per cent negative marking for the first time has led to docketing decimated marks and a lowest score of -1.
While Gandhi trumped last year’s highest score of 159, the slide down the ranks has been greater this year than in 2012. Last year NLSIU Bangalore’s general list cut-off closed at 147 marks for rank 58, while Nalsar Hyderabad closed at 142 for rank 117. This year those two ranks have respectively obtained 140.5 and 136.5 marks, the latter being lower than NUJS Kolkata’s cut-off marks of 137 last year.
Negative marking has helped loosen up the range of top 200 marks to 29 this year from 20 last year, and smaller groups of people tied at the same score – the group of 10 tied at 135.25 marks from rank 134 to rank 143 is the biggest tie in the top 200.
The top 200 were all general category candidates but two.
LLM
The highest scorer Neha Sharma obtained 90.5 marks and the last person to secure a one-year or two-year LLM program seat in the first list this year, rank 416 obtained 41.5 marks.
The last seat in the one-year LLM program will go to rank 374, with a score of 43, in the first list.
LLM candidates were yesterday allowed to submit fresh law school preferences online to the CLAT core committee before 5 June in view of the mid-year restructuring of the traditional two-year LLM degree.
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Law school preference analysis coming up soon after clat.ac.in publishes the preference list. Till then enjoy reading about last year’s preferences.
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Comments
You opt for anything lower than Bhopal and -(1) your chances of securing a decent job is as good as nil; (2) and the amount of money that you end up spending in meeting exceedingly high fees, in light of (1), makes you feel like you wasted your parents hard earned money at the end of 5 years.
The biggest incentive for joining the national law schools, and lets accept it, is the 'lucrative job' that awaits you, and it is this ready job market for a fresh law graduate that catapulted career in law as one of the most sought after, in the last 5-6 years.
I am not trying to be-little any of the law schools nor am I passing any value judgment on any of them, but Kian it is time that we start assessing the real situation that prevails in market and awaits these prospective law students. The print media is full of articles and writing on how 'lucrative and rewarding' (at times being compared with IITs and IIMs) the 'national law school' path is for student opting this after their 12th std. But such writing mostly fail to highlight that this may be so only at, say only 4 or 5 of these law schools.
For the rich and affluent class who send their kids to one of these law schools, it may really not matter as far as meeting the fees is concerned (after all such people can boast of having their kids studying in a 'national law school' and that I suppose is incentive enough for them to do so), but think about the middle class and the lower middle class who get mis-guided by all the hype and send their kids to even one of the lower ranked law schools only to realize after 5 years that hard earned money has gone down the drain.
a) everything below Bhopal is worthless and a waste of money aS they charge "exceedingly high fees"
b) the only reason students go to NLU's is for "that lucrative job"
c) it is elitist and allows parent who are rich to booast and thats enough for those parents to send their wards there.there is no chance for middle class people to be there
d) you say you pass no judgment on these law schools but law schools are nowhere in the same league as IIt's and IIMs ( not directly stated but can be implied)
i will now respond to your comment point by point.
first of all kindly get your facts right, just last year AMSS ( India's largest law firm) hired the most number of people from Gandhinagar National Law University -13. more than NLS and NUJS from where it took 12 each. But according to what you said, it not worth pursuing law from any place below bhopal
this year Patiala has already placed 13/25 students sitting for recruitment. 1 of these has even got AMSS .
Law schools are institutions of excellence and the kind of infrastructure, facilities exposure that any of the law schools provide is amazing.
and the fee's they charge for it is almost peanuts.
IIM ahmedabad has a few of rupees 7.4 lakh for the first year for the batch of 2012-2014 and this is not inclusive of everything .Laptop computer, personal expenses on boarding, travel, clothes and laundry are extra . now double this amount.
now the averge law school feel per year is close to 2 lakhs. for 5 years thats about ten lakhs. you do the math and decide if it is "exceedingly high"
point number two.
yes a lot of NLU grads go the law firm way. so?
a lot of others do a lot of other things, like pursue the civil services, take up higher studies, some take up research fellowships or other academic pursuits ,some go the entrepreneur way and quite a few take up litiagtion. so again, i would request you to get some facts.
point number 3
elitist and for the rich only? have you heard of IDIA?
clearly you have never been to a law school campus. come one day.its not just super rich people. children who have taken education loans, children of bankers and other regular middle class people are all here. people from ll over the country with diverse background are here. so again, facts.
point 4.
you say you pass no judgment or belittle the NLU's but your comment has almost a contemptuous tone for the students, the parents sending there kids here and for the lower ranked law schools.. according to you there is too much hype. the tier 1 law schools deserve it. their best students do get crazy placement packages , many better than those at the best IIMs or IIT . the average pay packages are also close to what IIM/IIT students get.
just like every IIM /IIT isn't superlative , every law school isn't superlative either. the new IIMs/IITs dont command the same respect yet. it is the same with law schools. quite a few national law schools are yet to have a batch pass out or have seen just 2-3 pass out yet. they are very new. but just like there is a prestige in passing out from an IIM/IIT so is the case with a National Law school. you have beaten thousands of students to get there. you are among the best the country has and you go to institutions which develop you in a way few others in the same field can. the field of law has amazing prospects and being a national law school pass out gives one tremendous opportunities. just the NLU Tag makes people take you seriously and open up a lot of avenues.
the kind of people we meet, the kind of facilities we get, the faculty we get, the events we're a part of is an experience.
to sum up my arguement , NLUs are full of diverse people who are not simply looking for the "lucrative job". they do not charge exceedingly high fees. the Law schoos below bhopal are good too. some are relatively new and need a little more time before judgment is passed on them .they are not full of spoilt rich kids who's parents have sent them there so they can brag. also the top rung law schools can be compared to the best IIMs/IITs as we do get kickass offers. the other law schools also get its students jobs and "chances of getting a lucrative job below bhopal " are NOT nil.
It would be worth looking at the data you bragged about more carefully. Any data you risk relying upon must bear some bit of consistency over a period of time, and not one random year. Secondly, getting you placed 'somewhere' is not good enough. Did you notice where those 13/25 were placed? As a student you would not really understand the difference I am trying to highlight.
The only point I wished to convey to all the prospective law students was that the ready legal market for fresh law graduates (if you are not from the top 4 or 5), is not as bright as it is often depicted. The total no. of 'decent' jobs (so to say) that are generated every year for law graduates is much less than the no. of law students that now pass out from the total of these 14 national law schools. An LPO is not a place you would want to work in after passing out from your "prestigious law school". And all that talk of "NLU tag" and "people taking you seriously" is really because of those (few) excellent placements which only the top law schools enjoy consistently. Speaking of things other than that, you could go to DU Law Faculty and come out almost as well versed at much less cost and opt to litigate, pursue academics or become an "entrepreneur".
And kid,specifically for you: I had the privilege of studying at the most enviable law school campus in the country, getting placed with one of the best recruiters and then putting in my papers to pursue my independent legal practice. Best of luck to you.
I hope you are able to take things in the right perspective than start jumping up at it, yet again.
And while I do agree with you on a no. of things said by you, but you really are ta
but that said, i perfectly understood what u meant. sure, after 5 years of law school you dont wanna be working in certain jobs and that there are less good quality jobs then number of national law school graduates . also that the top law schools get the best placements.
perhaps i did sound too optimistic , but i have some reasons..
i mentioned gandhinagar ( albeit got the name wrong-but the stats were right ) for a reason, in the last 3-4 years it has consistently been placing students with excellent recruiters including about 10 with AMSS per year in this time frame. the point being that with the passage of time gandhinagar has come up and is now giving competetion to jodhpur and bhopal.
as for patiala and the others , on today's numbers the optimism may be misplaced, but it is creditable that patiala has managed to place one of its students in AMSS this year. this is a start,who knows 5 years down the line patiala may have a story similar to gandhinagar's. it is this optimism which i share for other law schools .....that with the passage of time , more batches passing out...things will only get better.
but yes , they will take perhpas 5-10 years to get better and won't happen in a snap....not in the immediate future atleast.
1) Because AMSS is a Gujju firm and GNLU is in Gujrat, they have a deal.
2) GNLU has 250 students, 12 get into AMSS. NLS has 75, the same number get in. Percentage wise dekh.
3) Most of GNLU passouts go to AMSS Ahmedabad, which is not the most lucrative of AMSS jobs. So that is more of an Ahmedabad firm than an AMSS firm.
1) Because AMSS is a Gujju firm and GNLU is in Gujrat, they have a deal.
2) GNLU has 250 students, 12 get into AMSS. NLS has 75, the same number get in. Percentage wise dekh.
3) Most of GNLU passouts go to AMSS Ahmedabad, which is not the most lucrative of AMSS jobs. So that is more of an Ahmedabad firm than an AMSS firm.[/quote]
Spot on! Let's just say that political contacts has helped GNLU. Can't say anything further as LI has a habit of censoring comment about a certain law firm.
I also doubt if 'NLS has 75 and same number get in. Since you were writing out of your hat anyway, you could have thrown in names of a few more firms.
Made up statistics can be used to prove anything in the world. 80% of all people believe that too.
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Ok UNCLE! If you care so much about our National Law Schools and Universities, stop being Juvenile and cribbing about it in the virtual platform. Sort your problems out elsewhere rather than picking on 'kids'! Let us be and behave your age. Uncle!
What a stupid reply! People talking serious shit and you come up with this tiddly little piece of crap and think people will bow down to your intellect. Idiot.
thanks.
and there there is no specific information about grants/exemption on university websites other than nls. probably i would be getting a tier 2 law school, my rank is 609 to be precise. so could please tell me more precise information.
Credila/HDFC should be your second options, as they lend easily, but charge higher interest rates.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
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If anyone has any info
And god help you if you are doing an LLM from these minor NLUs. I really feel sorry for these guys.
Also, the guy who who is defending RGNUL is defeating his own argument by saying that one person got recruited by AMSS. The fact that only one got recruited by AMSS from the whole batch proves that RGNUL is not worth it.
Also, the guy who who is defending RGNUL is defeating his own argument by saying that one person got recruited by AMSS. The fact that only one got recruited by AMSS from the whole batch proves that RGNUL is not worth it.[/quote]
i think you missed this " on today's numbers the optimism may be misplaced" in my comment. i wasn;t saying things are all hunky dory for RGNUL, all i am saying is that considering it is not among the top law schools yet and is relatively new , it is creditable that it has managed to place 1 student in AMSS and that things will only get better in the future.
And god help you if you are doing an LLM from these minor NLUs. I really feel sorry for these guys.
Also, the guy who who is defending RGNUL is defeating his own argument by saying that one person got recruited by AMSS. The fact that only one got recruited by AMSS from the whole batch proves that RGNUL is not worth it.[/quote]
btw it is not Orissa but Odisha. And time will tell you how ignorant you are. Best.
And this years placement shows 4 ppl have been placed which is a worst possible result from such an old 'national' law school.
NLIU has the 2nd highest number of partners in TIER I Firms among all the NLUs second only to NLSIU Bangalore and YES ! more than NALSAR and WBNUJS. See the link below
http://www.legallyindia.com/201310044020/Law-firms/nls-glc-du-ils-rule-law-firm-partnerships-law-firms-don-rsquo-t-play-favourites
According to ECONOMIC TIMES survey of top law schools Last year NLIU Bhopal had an average recruitment salary of Rs. 12 Lakhs much more than our friends from NUJS Kolkata whose average salary was around Rs. 9 Lakhs P.A. Here's the link to that Economic Times Survey.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/jobs/recruitments-pick-up-steam-at-countrys-top-law-schools-nlsiunalsar-nujs/articleshow/25233946.cms?intenttarget=no
Last year NLIU had the highest number of recruits from Amarchand Mangaldass & Suresh A. Shroff across all Law Schools 10 campus and 2 ppos, more than the 6 GNLU gets with 180 people in their batch compared to 80 strength of NLIU . Also Trilegal, Khaitan have always been a traditional strong recruiters from NLIU Bhopal. Also Luthra & Luthra has recently made NLIU grad Kanchan Sinha a partner signifying Luthra & Luthra's interest in the college.
Also Wadia Ghandy Trilegal etc etc have increased their partners in NLIU so calm yourself man
You talked about students preference . You seem to be just talking in the air without any knowledge at all .
Last year Clat preference list was like this 223 was NUJS closing rank, 245 was NLIU closing rank . Most people in my batch in NLIU preferred Bhopal over Kolkata. I gave clat . I preffered to be in Bhopal than Kolkata.
Oh btw Jodhpur closing rank was 318 and GNLU was far far away at 429. Check the link below of the allotment list. Please don't even try to compare Bhopal with colleges like GNLU. Also don't spread malicious misinformation about NLIU Bhopal. Thank you :)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzi-sSJoPEIcTGtUeHBfems0Mk0/edit
They themselves don't know how to research and surprisingly, they will be your guide in your LLM dissertation. All NLUs are offering specialised courses in LLM and the classes will be held by faculty having degree and experience in other subject.
Most of the faculties at NLUs to handle LLM course are not up to the standard required. To substantiate this opinion you can read review commission report of NLSIU, NALSAR and GNLU highlighting the teaching standards. To know more read following posts.
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/128353
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/128351
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/128350
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/128340/post-128347
Kindly read section 6:
"The University shall be open to all persons irrespective of religion,
sex, race, caste, creed, class, opinion, place of birth or religious belief or political opinion and it shall not be lawful for the University to impose on any person any test whatsoever relating to sex, race, caste, creed, class, place of birth, opinion, religious belief or profession in order to entitle him to be admitted as a student in the University or to be appointed thereto as a teacher or to hold any office or post in the University or to qualify for any degree, diploma or any academic distinction or to enjoy or exercise any privilege of the University."
Well wisher of GNLU
He told me that even though the fees charged by them are pretty high, at the end of the day, its also a business. They've invested a lot of money into the making making of that college. If, for some reason, shit happens and it garners a bad reputation, it'll potentially lose millions of rupees. In a sense, private people like these are more interested in the welfare of their college than the lower ranked government aided nlus ever will be. That's what he said.
Can anybody shed some light? .