The NLU Delhi entrance test had fundamental flaws that resulted in furious students and parents, he said. A total of 80 marks – 35 each in English and logical reasoning, with 10 in maths - were of a very easy level and would not assist in selecting the best students. The other questions, particularly in general knowledge (GK) that straddled biology and science were obscure and biased towards those who could rote learn, explains Singh.
He estimated that roughly 12,000 students tried out for the NLU Delhi exam, which would be an increase of more than 50 per cent on last year’s figures of 7,814 for less than 80 places.
The 2012 CLAT on 13 May might be taken by around 26,000 to 28,000 future lawyers, predicted Singh, although official figures were not yet released.
However, Singh heavily criticised the conduct of the CLAT to date. Those setting papers should focus on a specific list of parameters to be tested, he said, and CLAT marketing efforts should be bolstered to bring highly talented individuals to the legal profession. The conduct of the exam should also be systematised.
“I have been closely watching all important law school entrance tests since 2004. Each year from 2008 we saw some brilliant innovations. The credit goes to all the people involved particularly when no one in the team has had experience of conducting a big exam,” says Singh who runs online CLAT preparation guide Clathacker.
“CLAT 2008 and 2011 were quite similar, but the 2009 and 2010 papers which were similar to each other, were quite different to 2008 and 2011,” he adds. “These two types were at two extremes and I feel a balance between the two types is required.”
To attain such balance, Singh says there should be a fresh look taken at the strength of each part of the five-section exam, and marks should be reallocated to each section based on such reassessment.
At the outset, he holds that a candidate must be tested against 10 basic parameters to assess if he or she is potentially a “good lawyer”.
The ten commandments
Singh believes that logical aptitude, which is the ability to make reasonable arguments and assumptions based on available information, should lead the list of ten. This should be followed by analytical skill, to demonstrate being able to deal with large volumes of data, and proficiently reading, writing, speaking and comprehending the English language.
Additionally, the ability to conduct fast and accurate research, acute general awareness to deal with socio-economic and political problems, problem solving aptitude, creativity, interpersonal skills, the perseverance to do “intelligent hard work” over long periods, and finally good writing and communication skills should also be present.
Singh suggests a detailed question paper pattern and division of marks, which he avers is equipped to filter out all but the best candidates taking the exam.
Testing times
Singh says that percentages should be allotted to each of the 10 skills to be tested in order of importance.
The leading parameter – logical ability, assigned 15 per cent, can be tested through logical and legal reasoning type questions which will also be instrumental in testing research aptitude and problem solving ability, that are both assigned 9 per cent. Additionally, reading comprehension and general knowledge questions should also be used to test research aptitude, while a personal interview will gauge problem solving ability.
He assigns 4 per cent to interpersonal skills and team work, for which he creates the fresh testing prong of “group discussion”.
| N | Parameters to be tested | Contribution out of 100 | Can be tested by… |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Logical Skill | 15 | Logical and Legal Reasoning |
| 2 | Fast Reading & Accurate Comprehending | 13 | Reading Comprehension, Vocabulary & Grammar |
| 3 | Analytical Skills | 13 | Analytical Reasoning and Mathematics |
| 4 | Writing / Communication | 12 | Essay, Short Notes, Vocabulary & Grammar |
| 5 | Ability to do intelligent hard work for a long period & Perseverance | 9 | GK, Vocabulary |
| 6 | Research Aptitude | 9 | Logical Reasoning, RC and GK |
| 7 | Intelligence | 9 | Logical & Legal Reasoning and Personal Interview |
| 8 | Creativity / Out of box thinking | 9 | Analytical Reasoning and Personal Interview |
| 9 | General Awareness | 7 | Current Affairs (Time zone announced) |
| 10 | Interpersonal Skills / Team Work | 4 | Group Discussion |
Paper structure
The CLAT question paper typically consists of five sections which are English, mathematics, general awareness, reasoning skills and legal aptitude. Each of these sections carries varying marks each year, adding up to an aggregate of 200 marks.
However, Singh believes that the section on reasoning skills should lead with 60 questions carrying one mark each, followed by English with 50 one-mark questions. The general awareness section should amount to 45 marks from 60 questions, the legal aptitude section should be worth 30 marks from 15 questions, and finally the last 15 marks can be earned from 15 math questions.
| SN | Subject | No of Questions | Marking Pattern | Total Marks |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | English | 50 | 1 mark for each question | 50 |
| 2 | Mathematics | 15 | 1 mark for each question | 15 |
| 3 | General Awareness | 60 | 3/4 mark for each question | 45 |
| 4 | Reasoning Skills | 60 | 1 mark for each question | 60 |
| 5 | Legal Aptitude | 15 | 2 marks for each question | 30 |
| Total | 200 | 200 |
Further, he suggests the following drafting criteria and exact number of questions for each of the question types comprising a section.
For the section testing English, he says, small, meaningful passages written in simple language, analogies and paragraph jumbles are desirable.
Math should be limited to tricky and quickly-solvable questions on basic arithmetic involving percentages, averages, ratios, work and speed not requiring heavy calculations.
The general awareness (GK) section should include static GK as well as current affairs, some of which should test deep knowledge of, say, the top 20 events of the past year. Judgment writing based on an event can be asked.
The general awareness multi-choice questions should carry answer options that filter the genuinely knowledgeable candidates from the ones making wild guesses.
The sections on reasoning skills and legal aptitude should carry freshly generated problems, instead of ones borrowed from previous papers.
The reasoning section should not be based on a defined syllabus, and the questions shouldn’t be lengthy.
Success in the legal aptitude section should not be based on prior knowledge of law, says Singh, which can be ensured by basing some of the questions on new principles, while the others use known principles with slight changes that play a decisive role in answering.
Smoothening the edges
Singh suggests certain measures that he claims can ensure the efficient conduct of the exam each year. These include an independent conducting agency, a centralised counseling system, analysis of past CLAT performances and papers, a reasonable length of the question paper, variable marking, a fixed question paper pattern henceforth, negative marking, and reservation for poor students.
On the current decentralised counseling system, Singh remarks: “The present system is cumbersome and full of hassles. Even after the third lists, many NLUs have to bring out 3 to 4 lists again. There is too much information to chase and the medium is very scarce.”
He maintains that announcing rank-wise counseling slots after declaration of results will help wind up the process of filling all seats of the 14 NLUs within 4 to 5 days. The precondition of depositing an advance of Rs 1.25 lakh for confirming a selected candidate’s seat would easily filter out the candidates who are not interested.
Variable marking systems with decimated marks will help reduce the number of students sitting on a single score, while negative marking would come in handy to increase the stringency of an increasingly popular exam.
Singh might argue for measures to keep pace with the popularity of the exam, but in his estimate, there is scope to increase the popularity further, and he defends a case for active marketing of national law schools and the promotion of CLAT.
Not gimmicking
“Hiring an agency for the promotion of CLAT may sound dirty, wrong and not required, to many,” apprehends Singh, while summoning in defence the opinion of XLRI business school faculty Dr Mohan Lal Aggarwal, who argued in favour of better marketing of XLRI for a top global rank.
“Why were national law schools were formed? It was to improve the legal education in India and consequently improve the quality of human resource in the legal systems. How will this happen without an increase in the awareness level about law as a career which is such a fascinating career,” asks Singh.
“The growth in the number of CLAT applicants has majorly happened due to school seminars. Sachin Malhan is the person whose contribution has been amazing in this regard. Many NLU graduates who have passed in the last 5-6 years were inspired by Sachin in school seminars,” he adds.
Additionally Singh addresses concerns in respect of the funds required to undertake such rigorous promotion. In his view, promotion would pay for itself through the expectedly increased revenue of up to Rs 10 crore, which the sale of CLAT forms at the rate of Rs 2,000 per form to a possible aggregate of 50,000 test takers will bring.
Thirty per cent of the revenue amount will be sufficient to promote the CLAT, and law itself as a career.
Comments
Prachi, Prachi... Attention to detail. You mean 80, not 8,000 right?
I am entirely to blame for that mistake, which was actually inserted during edits done by me after a very late night.
Luckily, this has now been corrected thanks to your eagle eyes.
Best wishes,
Kian
Best wishes
NLU-D
I was among the first batch of students who gave CLAT. I quite liked the paper at that time. One thing I did not like about CLAT is that admission is based entirely on an entrance exam which has only MCQs. I know that having essay questions has its problems but why can't we have interviews?
Use the CLAT marks to short list and then interview them. Simple.
Everyone has a 25% chance of getting an MCQ question correct. It leaves a lot to chance. Interviews will also make the University more accountable as to the students they admit.
Come on LI, again, you can do better than ToI.
He has been following the CLAT for many years and has been running Clathacker and CLAT since 2008-09, and CLAT-related Orkut forums since 6 years.
He is also very active on Facebook and in blogs, commenting about CLAT and the like.
He proposed some novel ideas and had some interesting data, so we thought it would be interesting to share those with others to encourage debate.
Would be interesting to hear views actually on the proposals or other ideas to improve the CLAT.
Best regards,
Kian
FYI, CLATHacker is FREE for all. Hold that look, there's more..Rajneesh Sir, despite being the product developer of a coaching institute offers assistance to every student who approaches him. Every student he guides has his phone number, email address, facebook id or rather let me sum it up for you, '24x7 reach to him via any medium'. And, I'm not just saying it; I've seen him answering our queries at odd hours, at 3am, 12pm, on Sundays, on Mondays, in April, in December. Standing with the students for their rights, providing assistance and strategies to maximize one's score. I remember calling him up at 11pm to remind him of the online quiz he conducts for our GK prep and within 5 minutes he was there, putting curious heads to work. Cherry on the top? That too FREE(OMG!), irrespective of the fact whether the student is an IMS Student or not. Hard to believe? Swallow it sir! CLATHacker, I believe is an independent, non-commercial body. Correct me if I'm wrong.
And, as far as Rajneesh Sir's qualification for suggesting reforms is concerned, I'd like to tell you respected sir, that he has been observing every aspect of CLAT since 2008. He, I believe is the person who interacts with 'most' CLAT aspirants every year through IMS, CLATHacker or Facebook, pre & post CLAT. Now, a person who's been watching things happening so closely and getting feedback on the way the examination is conducted has some right to recommend or atleast, state his views, I presume.
Oh! Btw, did I forget to mention that I'm no money-making advertiser from CLATHacker? I'm a CLAT aspirant who believes in making allegations only after having sufficient information. (If you get what I mean!)
Keep LOLing. May lord grant you some wisdom. Amen!
With best wishes,
Law abiding citizen.
Such experts are everywhere...in each city. In each 'CLAT Preparation' center; In each coaching institute.
KANS
it is utterly irrelevant (and sound like a great rascal's song) to see who, is the person,and what credibility he holds, raising the matter that fomented the issue to came to the fore, the Ann's compaign against corruption a suitable example before you.
I want to suggest you:it is redundant to see eligibility of a person ,who has dare to say something publicly, and holds dare to face everything for that cause.I DON'T think you have this type of capability.
I would like to ask from you; what do you do,what is your fundamental rights,whether you know about the Indian constitution and its part-III so called THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT : right to equality ,right to expression e.t.c or not.plz go my darling read all the chapters before you comment on any serious issue ,it can adversely affect you.
what you are doing can be said "attempt to defame a well-respected teacher in the eye of right thinking peoples and students.
plz ,inform me when wd have finished reading the part3 of the constitution
bye darling
Speaking for myself, I am in general agreement with what Mr. Singh says. However, I would disagree with him on several specific issues. For example, Mr. Singh's 10 commandements table suggests that the "Ability to do intelligent hard work for a long period & Perseverance" can be tested through "GK" and "Vocabulary". I fail to see the relation between the two. The "ability" which Mr. Singh speaks of can seldom be tested through a written exam of a limited duration. Instead, one is better of assessing these abilities during the professional experiences such as internships etc. I have similar, but milder, views about the "Research Aptitude" heading.
I, for one, would like more emphasis being placed on analytical and writing skills than anything else. I would also like to see a pinch of social science (esp. sociology and anthropology) in the exam. A small goal could be to make the exam as memory-neutral as possible so that one cannot simply resort to rote learning. I am all for increasing awareness about the law, however I prefer outreach activities instead of commercial adverts as the means.
The year after that, there was NALSAR setting the paper, and the paper leak happened. The substitute paper was below expectations (some say it was based heavily on a preparatory textbook).
The two years after that, the criticisms were similar to the erstwhile papers of the institutions setting the CLAT.
Moral of the story?
I gave some other CLAT, but the 2008 CLAT still stands apart.
It is also highly reflective of the stud batch we got that year.
What makes me most uncomfortable is that we have given other colleges the power to determine the quality of our incoming batches, which essentially is the determinant of the future of our college.
1. Are u eligible to challenge my eligibility? (May i know who are u?)
2. Do not you think this is a very relevant issue and we should concentrate more on that?
3. If you are really concerned about the same then better come up with a strong argument rather making silly comments. Seems you have some other agendas.
4. i am a teacher for CLAT Prep and so i am CLAT Guru
5. Those who want to know about me, can Google with "RAJNEESH SINGH CLAT".
6. i think Kian has initiated a brilliant debate which was much needed.
7. And posting such comments is not going to help you in what you want to do. (You have by mistake posted the term "coaching institute")
........................ and my eligibility may lie in my write up itself. Better read that well. Your arguments on the topic will be welcomed by me and it will be worth reading the comments box for others.
What stuff are you on man!?
I am neither aware of who you are nor agree with the salacious comments above.
But Don't you think you are stooping to the same level by replying to the same? Especially with self proclamations. More over, asking to Google your own name, Amusing!!
P.S- I do agree with your views.
"Ability to do intelligent hard work for a long period & Perseverance" - When i said that this can be tested by GK then i never meant that this alone can do. Gk can test "hard work for a long period & Perseverance" to a good extent and intelligence by other means which are already defined.
And i appreciate that you read this.
And just in case it does, he is the person who is in constant touch with thousands of CLAT aspirants every day. He is the one who knows their needs better than many. He is the voice of the aspirants. If you can still not digest it, try it the other way round.
On the topic - Sir, introducing subjectivity into the selection criteria is necessarily introducing the opportunity of favouritism in the selection, is it such a good idea still?
Second, it is very elitist to believe that these "parameters" are the "best" parameters. Considering most of them will only bring in the "ISC?CBSE-upper middle class-english educated-can afford coaching" crowd. The fact is that the Law School model has so far survived because it has somehow managed to garner diversity and not sameness mustn't be ignored. Something that CLAT has begun to kill.
This post contributes nothing. Except perhaps, starting a "debate" (and as Law Schoolites have repeatedly shown, they are only good at ad hominem and not genuine debate). [...]
I find you post worth replying.
Answers to
First Para
NA
2nd Para
So it is in CAT, Civil services and almost all important exams.
3rd Para
Good point
CSAT (newly introduced for CS) has 2 sections devoted to this out of 7. It also has an option of opting for an indian language. That can be done. But will that help or will create more problem? Look at the root of the problem. The English is our national language now (unofficially) . There are two solutions. One accept English as the national language or make Indian languages in practical practice.
(And you will agree that language and logic are both most important aspects)
4th Para
ok
- Name Undisclosed (I do not need promotion of any sort)
Queries/objections/arguments are welcome related to the topic.
I will be very happy to reply to those.
"The NLU Delhi entrance test had fundamental flaws that resulted in furious students and parents, he said."
Because if you don't have the exact proof, perhaps you could avoid hearsay.
This test will select those student who are very good at static GK or those who have incidentally those subjects. This will happen because other sections were too easy.
One incident.
One CLAT Aspirant's Father was interacting with me in regard to the problems related to AILET. I tried to convey him one fact that NLU-Delhi had never said that it will be only current affairs or only legal reasoning like CLAT. Hence it can not be said that something happened which was not said (though not expected). He became furious on me. .......... i had to then patiently deal with him. I knew it was the emotions which came out in fear of his son's failure.
The students and parents are angry on an unexpected pattern. But i have a different complain. Why the paper so biased towards static GK. if it is so heavily inclined towards one very less important factor then what is the use of taking entrance test? There are many other means.
AILET 2010 was an excellent paper and i am sure that must have yielded a better result. NLU delhi and honorable Ranbir singh has also set an example of "How to bring up a new law school to the top". It was very painful see such paper which has no meaning.
How much is your annual income from CLAT advisership role and if you are such an expert why the CLAT Committee does not appoint you as an Adviser for CLAT.
^_^ Dafuq did i just read?
Also, as someone who runs a coaching centre for the CLAT, isn't Mr. Singh's opinion on what constitutes a good CLAT necessarily coloured by what brings him more revenues. Therefore, for example, if my view of the best entrance test was accepted as true, wouldn't Mr. Singh be specifically disincentivized from talking about it, and specifically incentivized to spread the notion that a sub-optimal CLAT is actually better? Therefore, should Mr. Singh's views on such subjects be published at all, given that we cannot verify whether they come from a genuine estimation of what the CLAT should be, or from a more self-serving motivation?
PS; This is also why conflicts of interest need to be placed as disclaimers in articles, as Kian and LI always diligently do when they have a conflict of interest. Mr. Singh's conflict is no less important.
Answer to
Para - 1
Please come up with a paper and post it here which will not have a scope of a test prep assistance.
(Note - Test Prep centers have contributed in enhancing the aptitude level to a great height. We must be thankful)
Para 2
This is why Kian/Prachi did not mention that here as he did in my previous contributions in Legally India. But you and few others are disclosing that i belong to a coaching institute. And will it be not better if you mention what in the write up is sounding/smelling the same.
(your argument is circular, test prep helps you do better at tests that purport to be aptitude tests while they actually aren't. Therefore, they're not really enhancing aptitude, they're just helping you do better on the test. That's what changing the test to make it more aptitude based is about)
So you're saying that identifying your affiliation is important in all situations except where you're commenting on something where a conflict of interest may lie?
1. why clathacker.com name is here and never mine?
2. Who the hell is Rajneesh Singh?
3. How is he eligible?
4. Why his coaching is getting highlighted?
Let us try to stop all the wrongs being done till date. It is high time to raise the issue get the reforms started?
I want an answer to all these questions from all the CLAT/AILET Conducting NLUs.
1. How 12 answered were underlined in CLAT 2011 and it was not cancelled?
2. Why most of the questions of CLAT 2009 was from one book/guide (line by line copied). Can't you make 200 questions of your own?
3. Why AILET 2011 has all LA questions from past year papers. and you sell the past year papers.
4. Why CLAT 2011 has 3 wrong questions only in maths. There may be more?
5. Why every year you keep changing the pattern.
6. Why can't AILET announce a clear pattern as CLAT did last year. Why students have to carry so much load or shocks?
7. Why the process of listing is so problematic?
8. Why some law school provide 24 hours time to take admission in the last list?
9. CLAT 2011 - how could you simply add 12 marks to all to wash hands of your mistake. did it not make a huge difference between those who chose English instead of LA and others who did the reverse.
10. Why you do not have proper helpline to answer queries. You earn so much every year. can not you out source people for the same?
(Not to forget there had been many good steps taken in the process - i have mentioned them in the write up)
There are many such questions.
And it seems CLAT conducting bodies have been casual in their approach. We need to raise the voice.
I will keep speaking on this till the reforms are done.
By "keeping the pattern same", what is implied is that the nature of the pattern be kept the same, not the questions or the type of questions.
And of course I don't suggest only knowledge based questions (though there's nothing wrong with some prior knowledge being tested, if it isn't entirely legal knowledge). I only suggest that the paper pattern change every year, from the weight given to each sections, to subtle variations in the nature/types of questions. They should also add a subjective section which involves writing descriptive answers, like the old NLS test
oh yes, and they should negative marking
@Everyone
One's education depends on the way one is raised. If he has studied in English medium, why should he be strong in it? To hell with everyone of you people for bashing such imminent personality. Do you know how many haz he helpd? TOO MANY PEEPS!
Now go away before I punish you *gets bondage gear*
Rajneesh, keep it up. IMS rocks, old friend.
Harsh, consider yourself fortunate to know "wonderful grammar", but do not despise those who are not as familiar with the English language as you are. Quit being an elitist and a xenophile.
All said, I do think Mr. Singh that whereas this is a good starting effort, I think it is just an opportunity to start a discussion, rather than forcefully push certain agendas (I am not accusing you of doing so).
Purely for the purpose of intellectual fun, I would also ask that by your logic all our freedom fighters should have known English since that was the language of the colonial power they were engaging against?
Point being, just because English is the only language for CLAT doesnt mean this is correct. Look at the UPSC exams. Why should the CLAT emphasize on English so much?
He has noted down some great points to ponder over ^^^ . So unless you have experience of preparing students for CLAT, or even preparing mocks (mind you, only the one who prepare mocks knows how a good paper can be prepared), SHUT DAFAQ UP AND LISTEN!
Which also means the only way to go is, down. For what has been essentially (and rightly so) an aptitude test is now going to/already morphed into a battle for which battle-readiness would be certified by the CLAT hack (couldn't resist...that's why left it at hack) and kids will be more traumatised because there's a CLAT to mess with your head as well. Incredible.
While I do believe in healthy debates, Kian this is naughty. You caught this chappie for a long-winded interview interview just the weekend before CLAT. And this guy cheeps away gamely as to how this is useful. Welcome to journalism Indian ishtyle...And FYI, Rajneesh Singh is the Head of CLAT, IMS, which normally would have been fine, but then again its the timing that shows that Kian is finally becoming an Indian journalist. I guess it had to come to this.
And its wonderful as to how the pattern must be fixed and steady? Mr. Singh in your 10 commendments (whole load of crock if you ask me especially since you are talking about a 17 year old) the first one should be ability to think on your feet (actually this should be true for all professions). Which means that the CLAT pattern should never be constant. I suppose things have passed me by, but I would imagine that the concept of an aptitude test is different from a normal, hardcore test like the IITs, since that is not really an aptitude test.
Food for thought for y'all. The CLAT is written by kids when they are 17-18. Expecting the level of sophistication of a CAT is not only naive, but downright foolhardy.
And finally, you know what Mr. Singh, I really hope that they dont consider your views too seriously for the reason that i believe that people deciding these things should be educationists, who have thought through the education system. I believe that you arent one and you are an opportunist (a good trait, if you ask me). And I do believe that this in these principle-based discussions, opportunists must be heard to ensure that we can restrict their abuse, nothing more.
How would be your CLAT paper?
EXCUSE ME!? What do you mean by Must be from 2009/2010 batch? I am from one of those batches and you got no right to judge me. Alright? The paper was same for everyone. So do NOT end up making silly arguments to save your own ass! And then people call themselves gurus!
Boss which batch are you in? As if you have even qualified as a lawyer!
You have no locus standi to talk, my friend.
Stick to your business which you do well.
Kian, i notice that LI is not rising up to the bait. good idea this- provocative heading, people taking up the bait on this discussion forum. Better, better, better. Must ask you as to why you have not set out the IMS connection. The problem with adopting high standards is the criticism that is directed when you cant follow them. So from a journalist ethics perspective, should you or not have disclosed the IMS connection? You have been very prompt with these dsclaimers in the past (and rightly so). Are you going to do the same now?
PS. I'm available 24x7. Call me.
Suckmani..screening is relevant in case of IITs where lacs of people appear and therefore the need to screen the students arises. In CLAT, about 25,000-30K people will appear and you want to introduce screening!!Although I believe interview/G.D should be introduced as a selection criteria.
It its nearly twice as difficult to make it to IIt (just statistically speaking) than an NLU
The maths is truly not in your favour suckmani. I did always thaink CLAT maths should be tougher. nonetheless, that's not even the point NLS and PR are making. Their point is that its logistically much more difficult to check 4.5 lakh papers manually (as opposed to OMR), hence, if a descriptive paper is set, a screening becomes essential. This isn't that big a problem with figures along the lines of what CLAT has.
Hence, the concept of sreening isn't really required for CLAT, and isn't an excuse for not having, say, questions which actually require you to put pen to paper.
I mean its plain simple, its not like its cartesian geometry.
we respect you for your tireless effort,your dedication and altruistic nature, CLATHACKER quizzes and other discussions forums has helped me a lot and your views and comments are respectable and for others who are busy passing stupid comments please grow up, just cause you don't know sir you don't need to make foolish comments you guys don't have that standard to comment on his credibility...
and yes, sir is the real CLAT mentor.... sir thank you for your selfless efforts.... :)
"ma"!! Ok teen chic! This is enough reason why you will not be able to make it to a top law school despite Rajneesh's guidance..
"ma"!! Ok teen chic! This is enough reason why you will not be able to make it to a top law school despite Rajneesh's guidance..[/quote]
COME on dimwit (nice name, btw). Because she uses the word "ma" she won't make it to a national law school? I mean do you even understand the absurdity of your assertion. Half the students in national law schools use SMS language and have spelling mistakes in their CVs. I wonder how they got there. Remember, everyone grows up, but that doesn't give you the right to talk shit about people who do not meet your standards of expression.
you gotta lose yourself, yo.
"ma"!! Ok teen chic! This is enough reason why you will not be able to make it to a top law school despite Rajneesh's guidance..[/quote]
she will be making to NLSIU.... you guys need not worry... stop braying....
Why would NLU's want people who think and question amongst them?
This would result in exposing of scams present in all.
Would make teachers(some of whom really enjoy themselves) pay more attention to work and commit heavier research.
It would also make administrators spend more on things like hostels, libraries, playgrounds and other student facilities unlike on office decorations, cars, kowtowing yes-men in uniform etc.
Keeping the situation in mind,
People who think less are exactly what some of the powers that be want.
P.S: There are always exceptions and if you or someone you know is one of them- good for you, but I'm addressing a general audience.
I thought you are just famous. But i can see now, that you are very famous.
Sir, you please do not comment on all that. If you are not the right person to write on this then no one else is. Thanks for all your supports.
Jo hai naam wala ---------------
Well, that answers to much of the questions raised about the credibility of the author of the article. On a different note, it would be so much better if anyone raises objections in regard to the contents of the article and feasible loopholes in the national law entrance tests raised in the article. It would not only help the future law aspirants, but the entire law school fraternity. The very fact that better deserving people would get through good law schools makes the issue of quality of law entrance tests paper all the more important. And I think that the author had the same in mind while writing this article!
:)
Not an eavesdropper, and not saying you can/cannot comment if you do have a connection. Quite the opposite
If this was done by a political party two days before an election, the ensuing scandal would end a political career or two. It is now two days before the CLAT
I think several objections have been raised to the content of the article as well. Their motives are, nonetheless, important.
Equating the credentials of the author as to that of a "rival" to the law entrance tests is nonetheless laughable.
Firstly,the author had categorically favored and applauded the efforts of 2008 CLAT paper, which incidentally was set by NLSIU, right NLS? We don't find parties motivated by political ambitions appreciating the efforts of the rival political party.
Secondly, the nexus to rival political party always carries itself some vested interests. They have a reasonable stake to power. The author doesn't have the stake to set the next or rather the subsequent year's law entrance test paper.
Thirdly, the article was written keeping in mind the recent fiasco of the AILET. If only, you had read the lines in the inception a bit more cautiously, Mr. NLS! Not the other way round, keeping in mind of CLAT.
Next time, do come up with logical points to counter the analogy. And fast!
On one and two, parties often praise each other after the fact(the BJP has recently praised Manmohan Singh's 1991 liberalization, the Congress praises the BJP's nuclear policy). And the vested interest here is clear, the coaching institue
The fact that the AILET was the hook doesn't change the timing of the article. It could have also been written next week, and spoken of both exams. Instead it chose to come out now.
Ni akka dengai.
However having said this I would like to say that much of the trolling could be avoided if the first para of the article gave a summary of the contents rather than introduce the author.
As for the suggestions made by Mr. Singh on parameters to be tested, I do agree with most of the suggestions however there can be infrastructural (for NLUs) and financial (for candidates) problems in conducting PI and GD (however it must be noted that IIMs do year after year successfully conduct GDs).
One probable solution for stopping ever changing variation in CLAT paper would be to create a CLAT syllabus, fixed pattern and a CLAT secretariat at one of the NLUs where experts from all NLUs can come 2-3 months before the exam and prepare the questions, this way the annual variation would be curtailed to a large extent.
Also I do fervently pray that someone files a PIL against NLUD for not adhering to the SC order on conducting a common law entrance test (CLAT).
For starters, Rajneesh is the product manager of IMS CLAT prep, where he is responsible for preparation of thousands of students all over India. He is a very respected teacher - he had taught me maths in LST 6 years back, and I can say he is one of the best teachers I ever had. Due to his profession, he deals with CLAT much more than anyone else probably ever will. If he is not an expert, I do not know who will be one. He often writes columns for ToI and other newspapers on CLAT. He is also author of a best seller book for preparation of civil services entrance.
Now assuming even if one of you is a greater expert, or know someone who knows more about CLAT than Rajneesh, get them to write about the problems Rajneesh has pointed out. I am sure Kian will carry them.
Please learn how to conduct a standardized exam. You are playing with the future of many students.
COME ON... I STUDIED THE ENTIRE YEAR PREPARING WELL FOR CURRENT AFFAIRS AND LEAGAL REASONING and Guess what NLUJ sets a PAPER To DISAPPOINT every CLATASPIRANT...NOT COOL...
Alternatively, the same was proven with the second CLAT
NALSAR learned from the error? Really? Does that explain the cheating scandals alluded to in the committee reports that appeared on LI earlier this year?
Of course, we don't know how NLASAR would do at setting another CLAT, because that hasn't happened yet, so the other exams they conduct are our only measure of learning from the error right?
Agree absolutely that there's a race to the bottom at NLS right now. God save NLS after the current fourth year batch graduates, and that isn't a coincidence. Go figure.
Just saying.
i know u do nt have any logic behind your comments. how it will be , u have not read the article.
u have some other agenda. otherwise why u would have to put 8th post, all in different and fake names.