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Plant ban begets other unscientific bans: weed lawyer
Plant ban begets other unscientific bans: weed lawyer

Cannabis remains contraband in India, after the Bombay high court dismissed a petition filed in April to decriminalise its use, on the ground that the legislature, and not the court, was the appropriate forum for the challenge.

A bench of justices VM Kanade and Shalini Phansalkar Joshi dismissed advocate Aditya Barthakur’s petition that had produced evidence of the medicinal benefits of Cannabis, and ordered:

“We are afraid that this Court while exercising its writ jurisdiction under Article 226 of the Constitution of India cannot grant the reliefs…Apart from that, the Petitioner has produced certain technical data regarding useful effects of Ganja etc. We are afraid that we are not experts in the field and the Petitioner can raise this issue in the Parliament…”

Barthakur commented to Legally India: “If a plant can be banned without backing such ban with scientific, medical or logical reasons then why does the state not ban two and four wheelers, local trains, the state should also consider a ban on breathing as in doing so will prevent what happened to those who inhaled the poisonous gas (methyl isocyanate) during Bhopal Gas Leak. Born with the endocannabinoid system we are all fundamentally wired to consume cannabis.

He added that now he “need[ed] to recharge my batteries and in sometime will approach the Apex Court under article 32 of our Constitution”.

Comments

recharge 11 Sept 2015, 06:24
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a.k.a jota break
420 11 Sept 2015, 08:55
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Ridiculous. If the courts are not willing to up the ante and permit medicinal and/or recreational use, it is hard to imagine the legislature will do anything to bring a change to a law which could very well get politicised.

I hope the petitioner approaches the SC. I do not expect anything miraculous from the SC on this, but we can certainly hope that it will result in a positive outcome. If this attempt fails, perhaps many more will follow.

I think there is adequate evidence for the plant, if the courts still do not seem convinced they (and others) should read a book called "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" a seminal study by Jack Herrer on the relevance of cannabis / hemp.

Regulate, control and tax the product but stop with the prohibition! Its about time, the war on drugs has failed.
Aditya Barthakur 11 Sept 2015, 15:03
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The Book "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" is brilliant. You should also watch the documentary, if you have not that is. Watching the documentary is perfect for those who don't enjoy reading.
On point of going to Supreme Court yes I will. What I really meant by "...need to recharge my batteries..." is that I need to gather the funds (a separate fund solely for SC) for the journey to and fro and other expenses, as I have done all by myself what I did in this PIL before the Hon'ble Bombay High Court. I am not at all interested in getting financial help from those who will or might start to interfere in my work or question it only because they gave me financial assistance.
Need to be at Peace.....
Guest 11 Sept 2015, 19:21
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Hi Aditya!

I hope you know that a writ under article 32 cannot be filed before Supreme Court if your article 226 petition has been dismissed. *sigh*

Cheers!
Aditya Barthakur 11 Sept 2015, 23:25
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Yes I can....
Aditya Barthakur 12 Sept 2015, 04:02
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The can be no res judicata on questions which have been left open.....
Aditya Barthakur 12 Sept 2015, 09:02
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There*
420 12 Sept 2015, 05:09
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Funding is essential, I think your endeavours certainly deserve it. I am not sure but may be crowd funding the initiative might help?

Alternately, the international legalisation movement might also be a good source. I believe the first legalisation conference was organised in Bangalore sometime last year. I found out about it quite late. Perhaps you may know of it.

Any other thoughts on how you will fund the next part of the case?

Peace and Pot..
Aditya Barthakur 12 Sept 2015, 09:14
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Honestly haven't really thought about how I should/would/will fund my journey to the Apex Court.
Praying to the Universe and Mother Nature, they should open up a door.

And as I have already mentioned the reason for why I do not wish to approach any1 on the topic is cause I fear there might be a few who would/might question my work or style or approach towards the cause. What if they also start asking me for accounts. No1 ever asked me how I managed this PIL.
420 12 Sept 2015, 05:17
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Aditya

I have also wondered about this, but may you or someone else knows, the rationale for permitting state licensed 'bhang' shops in some states such as MP, Rajasthan etc? Is it OK for states to make exception to federal law in this case (because bhang being a cannabis derivative would be equally banned under NDPS)?

Furthermore, if states are allowing the legal use of cannabis via bhang then should they not by exception permit use of pot and other derivatives (unless I have got it wrong and bhang is derived not from the flowering tops but other portions of the plant)? What is the rationale for permitting one and not the other?

I don't know if clear answers for the above are available, but this grey area could be further explored.
Aditya Barthakur 12 Sept 2015, 09:01
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When I argued I informed Hon'ble Court that Criminal law is a part of entry 1 list 3 schedule 7 (concurrent list) and Hon'ble Court can grant me my prayers. Hence on your point - yes states can permit canna cultivation and sale of its products as NDPS ACT 1985 a part of criminal law & is a part of the concurrent list on which both the states and central govt can legislate. But when states permit any cultivation or goods edibles etc to be manufactured out of canna such products will attract the Medicinal and Toilets Preparations Act, 1955 which comes under central excise.
I also made the submission that now due to doctrine of Pith and Substance NDPS ACT 1985 prevails in Maharashtra. Earlier it was the Bombay Prohibition Act 1949 and that 66 years have passed and no1 knows why the plant is illegal. 20 years imprisonment on what constitutional grounds???

For me peace means pot....
Aditya Barthakur 12 Sept 2015, 09:03
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And in Maharashtra even Bhang is illegal....
Aditya Barthakur 12 Sept 2015, 09:29
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Yes the states can make an exception in Central Enactments. The reason is criminal law is a part of Entry 1 List 3 Schedule 7 (concurrent list) hence both the states and center can legislate on every entry in it.
That's one argument I raised when I argued and informed Hon'ble Court that it can grant me my prayers as prior to NDPS Act 1985, there was the Bombay Prohibition Act 1949 and 66 years have passed and no1 knows why the plant is illegal with such severe punishment. Now due to doctrine of Pith and Substance NDPS ACT 1985 prevails all over India. If you have read the PIL you will see no mention of the Bombay Prohibition Act anywhere. And when states create an exception as regards cannabis it will immediately attract the Medicinal and Toilets Preparation Act, which will come under central excise.
420 15 Sept 2015, 04:51
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If states do indeed have the power to make exception to NDPS and allow canna production (bhang or otherwise), the process for grant of licenses to grow need to be clearly set out. Why would growing for the purposes of bhang (which is recreational) as opposed to personal growing of marijuana by patients illegal? I understand states may permit hemp production for industrial use, but the other exception of bringing it under excise while may not be the best way to go but is still more acceptable than complete prohibition. May be states will have to take the first step forward here just like in the US.
Aditya Barthakur 15 Sept 2015, 10:44
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On why bhang is illegal and why it cannot be even grown for medicinal purposes...one needs to understand how the modern day global economy works. If people started to grow their own medicine money velocity(rate at which currency changes hands) would reduce and debt would drop(debt = currency or currency = debt). If debt dropped there would be deflation in the economy(currency becomes non-existent) with a resultant effect of banks runs as people would not be in a position to repay their debts(principal and interest).I suggest you watch the documentary "The Money Masters" by Bill Still to understand how Keynesian principal of Higher the Aggregate Demand + Higher the Consumption = Higher the GDP goes to the root of all prohibition.

On the point of licensed cultivation..I do not support any license. An example of how no license ever works is a drivers license. A drivers license never guarantees that the person who holds it will not end up in an accident.
No license for growing mother nature, what say?

Be it bhang, ganja, charas/hasish they all contain cannabinoids essential for a healthy body(homeostasis).
kianganz 15 Sept 2015, 04:56
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Here's some more background on bhang by the way, and how it's legal in some states:
http://www.legallyindia.com/Criminal-law/how-exactly-is-weed-legal-in-india-happy-holi-via-wsjindia
420 16 Sept 2015, 06:23
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Yes, thanks for the article reference. I seem to recollect having read that it was a derivative of cannabis leaves instead of the bud/flower and that is excluded under NDPS. Outside of India, the leaves are considered absolutely useless from a smoking perspective and only leaves sticking out of the bud are used for making hash, rest of the fan leaves are simply discarded as having next to zero THC content (or cannabinoids). Looks like the march to legalise (or decriminalise) something which has been legal for several thousand years in India and under prohibition for just over 30 years is going to be a long one.
Aditya Barthakur 16 Sept 2015, 09:12
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If you have not do read the National Policy on Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances. Do not understand how did they conclude that rest of Plant does not contain cannabinoids. To say that leaves do not contain cannabinoids is scientifically unacceptable.

http://cbn.nic.in/html/NationalPolicyEnglish.pdf you can copy paste the link and read Para. 20

onwwards from Page No. 9. It is from the Central Board of Narcotics.

Yes the march to free gods greatest gift to humanity is going to be long one as even I am not quite sure when will humans wake up to the truth or at least show the courage to defy the science I produced in the PIL.