'New' lawyers to get 5K stipend per month, resolves BCI

“For the first time in the history of judiciary, the Bar Council of India has decided to address the woes of new entrants in the Bar by providing `5,000 as stipend, per month, for a period of five years,” reported the New Indian Express.

The BCI’s members and various state bar council chairmen and vice chairmen met recently in Delhi, according to the report, and resolved that advocates who accept the stipend can in return provide legal aid to poor litigants under the Legal Service Authority Act 1987.

The BCI charges law graduates Rs 2560 as registration fee to take the All India Bar Examination for their practice certificate.

Comments

Wohhoa! 14 Jul 2014, 12:35
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LegallyIndia: More details please! How, when, where?
dumbars 14 Jul 2014, 12:36
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I don't understand this article..
Guest 14 Jul 2014, 13:11
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the decision to pay Rs 5000 is a good initiative BCI has taken.
Lousy rapper 14 Jul 2014, 13:55
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A good decision, which must, hopefully, crystallise into a resolution without any more hesitation. Coz, its stuff like hesitation, confusion, corruption that impedes fruition and progression. We are the future, we are your play, let us aspire and make those miserly sweat shops go away. This is your chance. It is worth your while, make history, don't let pettiness and greed drive you senile !
Okay! 14 Jul 2014, 14:08
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Kian, is this the 1st limerick-comment you've seen on your site?
kianganz 14 Jul 2014, 14:12
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Quite possibly, yes. Also probably the worst rhyme I've ever seen.

Author should start a Twitter account: lawyerhymes. Would be popular no doubt!
Lousy rapper 14 Jul 2014, 14:45
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:(

[quote name="kianganz"]Quite possibly, yes. Also probably the worst rhyme I've ever seen.

Author should start a Twitter account: lawyerhymes. Would be popular no doubt![/quote]
kianganz 14 Jul 2014, 14:49
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I'm sorry Lousy rapper, I didn't mean that, your poem was awesome! :)
Hoodibaba 14 Jul 2014, 16:34
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I Like it !

Lousy Rapper .... Bring it on!
TT 14 Jul 2014, 22:06
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LMFAO: Even drivers get paid more! Bring in foreign law firms now!
PJ 15 Jul 2014, 09:49
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TT, you do not have any locus standi on the subject of pay.

[quote name="TT"]LMFAO: Even drivers get paid more! Bring in foreign law firms now![/quote]
WTF?!?! 15 Jul 2014, 10:26
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The BCI should itself be sued for this horrendous admission of their own screwed-up assessment of competence of 'qualified' law graduates!!

5K pm for 5 Years?!?!?! Do they want young lawyers to live independent lives or not?!

My office peon wrinkled his nose when offered 6K.. "Kya Sir, I have to live a life you know..". My driver gets 12K (+OT of maybe 2-3K extra pm).. my maid at home gets 7K..

Jeeezzus!

Suggestion: (a) Make it mandatory for every senior to have at least 'x' juniors ('x' being a function of the senior's years in active practice + amount of tax-filings) (b) fix a stipend (base, 'living wage') of about 20K (c) performance-linked pay of 2 to 5% for matters billed and recovered, where the junior has delivered a pre-defined set of contributions (continuity of handling a matter, relevance of research, file maintenance, punctuality, etc)..

And if/once that happens, we may stop dreaming!
a perspective 15 Jul 2014, 12:16
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Dude !

I respect the spirit with which you have voiced this opinion. But, you should know that litigation practice (a profession driven by perspectives and not 0's and 1's) isn't the same as selling mobile-phone connections, where you can have performance-linked salaries. The law firms, some of which also practice litigation do that, in a way already...

Clients approach an "independent counsel" (the category of lawyers to whom this benefit concerns) for arguing/ drafting a case or advise. The selling point in this scenario is only that lawyers perspective on the subject (not his juniors, who is completely responsible for his significance in the scheme of things and must climb from level 0). Juniors/ apprentices learn on the job and are traditionally expected to build their own practice, alongside.

There is however a very unfortunate mutation of this practice that is taking place now. Younger counsels (the better known ones, in particular) expect 100% commitment to their chamber (like a law-firm) and also pay rather poorly (even though they earn well themselves).

I find this rather strange and very unfortunate, considering that we generally associate poor pay (and shabby treatment) to the old school of lawyers. The younger, better known ones are sadly more insecure than their senior counterparts and a lot more whimsical !

I've digressed !

The point in short is that this Rs.5,000 is an addition to what a junior counsel at the bar would earn from his chamber and independent billings.

Rs.5,000 can surely not cover rent and food, but it can make things easier for those who aspire to practice litigation...

[quote name="WTF?!?!"]The BCI should itself be sued for this horrendous admission of their own screwed-up assessment of competence of 'qualified' law graduates!!

5K pm for 5 Years?!?!?! Do they want young lawyers to live independent lives or not?!

My office peon wrinkled his nose when offered 6K.. "Kya Sir, I have to live a life you know..". My driver gets 12K (+OT of maybe 2-3K extra pm).. my maid at home gets 7K..


Jeeezzus!

Suggestion: (a) Make it mandatory for every senior to have at least 'x' juniors ('x' being a function of the senior's years in active practice + amount of tax-filings) (b) fix a stipend (base, 'living wage') of about 20K (c) performance-linked pay of 2 to 5% for matters billed and recovered, where the junior has delivered a pre-defined set of contributions (continuity of handling a matter, relevance of research, file maintenance, punctuality, etc)..

And if/once that happens, we may stop dreaming![/quote]
Kaoboy 15 Jul 2014, 14:06
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Really? One more subsidy? Why should the Bar Council be paying s monthly stipend for 5 years? And how does the Bar Council propose to finance this? If you can't take the heat, don't go out in the sun. Nobody forced you to become a lawyer, and if you can't support yourself, too bad - find something else to do. No reason why the Bar Councils should be encouraging this sort of NREGA type misplaced welfarism. Doesn't do any good either to lawyers or the profession. The money, if they really have it, can be invested in improving the functioning of the Bar Councils to render them more professional and modern.
Duh! 15 Jul 2014, 17:00
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Dimwit, you've sadly missed the point. It's Rs.5,000 toward an undertaking to render public-service, for those five years. An opportunity for many to learn, improve and showcase their abilities for more lucrative assignments, in my view. In a profession where good chambers are only a few and opportunies are even fewer, I welcome this change. Most commenters here have failed to also appreciate that this initiative will foster competition and ensure better quality legal-aid for deserving litigants..

[quote name="Kaoboy"]Really? One more subsidy? Why should the Bar Council be paying s monthly stipend for 5 years? And how does the Bar Council propose to finance this? If you can't take the heat, don't go out in the sun. Nobody forced you to become a lawyer, and if you can't support yourself, too bad - find something else to do. No reason why the Bar Councils should be encouraging this sort of NREGA type misplaced welfarism. Doesn't do any good either to lawyers or the profession. The money, if they really have it, can be invested in improving the functioning of the Bar Councils to render them more professional and modern.[/quote]
Guest 28 Jul 2014, 11:45
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The 'Jolly LLBs' of the day badly require this dough ! You , my friend must be from one of those uncle/daddy firm families (that have plagued our nation for so long ) and don't need the money !
Puke 16 Jul 2014, 17:51
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It is absolutely disgusting how lawyers don't pay their juniors. I won't even say enough, for some lawyers don't pay anything at all. Non payment of stipend acts as a deterrent and dissuades law grads from taking up litigation. As a consequence, a new trend has emerged where graduates prefer to look for corporate jobs for a few years and waste their precious time in search for money.

To impose paying a junior would only lead to lawyers avoiding juniors in the first place. The need of the hour is for lawyers with established practices to pay their juniors out of their own volition. The whole argument about a lawyer being a traditional guru granting wisdom is ancient and leaves the option of litigation for those from affluent backgrounds.

Puke.
Duh! 17 Jul 2014, 03:14
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The fact of the matter is that in today's days day and age, there is a paying-job for every deserving-candidate, even in litigation (a practice area which is run both by professional /semi-professional organisations, private individuals and families) and there is an acute shortage of lawyers capable enough to deliver and justify good salaries (esp. In their initial years of practice. Of this lot of lawyers, there are some who wish to try nevertheless and are willing to learn. Of those, there are
[quote name="Puke"]It is absolutely disgusting how lawyers don't pay their juniors. I won't even say enough, for some lawyers don't pay anything at all. Non payment of stipend acts as a deterrent and dissuades law grads from taking up litigation. As a consequence, a new trend has emerged where graduates prefer to look for corporate jobs for a few years and waste their precious time in search for money.

To impose paying a junior would only lead to lawyers avoiding juniors in the first place. The need of the hour is for lawyers with established practices to pay their juniors out of their own volition. The whole argument about a lawyer being a traditional guru granting wisdom is ancient and leaves the option of litigation for those from affluent backgrounds.

Puke.[/quote]
Families 17 Jul 2014, 05:20
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Totally true that it is not easy for a "raw" young person with no family background in the legal profession, to fully understand the impact of what he does - more so in the initial years.

Especially rare to find a person from a relatively poor background, who has figured what it really takes to be a good advocate capable of receiving implicitly trust from a client.

And the practice of law (whether litigation or advisory/ documentation) is SO fraught with mine-fields that often-times, a young lawyers first mistake may well be his last brief!

But the rarest of the rare few who struggle like crazy and swim upstream, dodging all kinds of predators, temptations and obstacles along the way, are the ones who become truly sought after - at once empathetic as humans and powerfully effective as lawyers! They usually beat hollow, the ones who claim to be "To the Manor Born"..

For this set, the 5K pm stipend is a non-issue. For the rest of the gang, this is still a touchy issue and a very embarrassing dictat from the BCI.
Stipend for practitioners 15 Aug 2014, 18:04
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it really feels good that the government has finally put a thought on providing stipend for junior advocates to represent the cases of poor litigants, it would also be a relief for junior lawyers as they struggle to earn Rs 100 a day at the beginning of their careers its a great thought by the government and the stipend should be given to only those who are practicing and not to all those who have enrolled
fazlekarim 3 Jul 2016, 07:51
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Its been 2 years now but no confirmation from BCI ...