SEBI pummels DLF & directors, rep’d by Dwarkadas, Shroff, Sundaresan, after mendacious IPO under 5 top law firms

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SEBI has banned real estate giant DLF and six managers from the capital markets for three years after a finding of fraud.

SEBI: DLF lied in IPO
SEBI: DLF lied in IPO
The Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) has banned real estate giant DLF and seven of its management from accessing the capital markets for three years after a finding of fraud.

Six of the company’s senior management and directors, including its promoter, were banned for “misleading and defrauding investors” in the realtor’s 2007 initial public offering (IPO), reported Quartz.

FirstBiz reported that SEBI found three “housewives” – wives of DLF managers – to be at the core of a complex shareholding structure that was used in sham transactions that were intended to mask their husband’s and, by extension, DLF’s continued ownership of three subsidiaries, Felicite, Shalika and Sudipti.

Those three allegedly masked subsidiaries were not disclosed in the 2007 public offer documents, and thus misled SEBI.

DLF denied any wrongdoing.

SEBI member Rajiv Kumar Agarwal wrote in the order (full copy below):

In this case, I have already found that the process of share transfer of three subsidiaries of DLF in Sudipti, Shalika and Felicite was through sham transactions as alleged in the SCN and that the Noticees employed a plan, scheme, design and device to camouflage the association of DLF with its three subsidiaries namely, Felicite, Shalika and Sudipti. In this case under such plan, scheme, design and device, the Noticees suppressed several material information in the RHP/Prospectus of DLF and actively concealed the fact about filing of FIR against Sudipti and others. In the facts and circumstances of this case, I find that the case of active and deliberate suppression of any material information so as to mislead and defraud the investors in the securities market in connection with the issue of shares of DLF in its IPO is clearly made out in this case. Therefore, the charge of violation of provisions of section 12 A(a), (b) and (c) of SEBI Act read with regulations 3 (a), (b), (c), (d) 4(1), 4(2)(f) and (k) of PFUTP Regulations against the Noticees is also established.

[…]

I am satisfied that the violations as found in this case are grave and have larger implications on the safety and integrity of the securities market. In my view, for the serious contraventions as found in the instant case, deterrent actions to safeguard the market integrity. It, therefore, becomes incumbent to deal with contraventions, digression and demeanour of the erring Noticees sternly and take appropriate actions for deterrence.

[…]

Considering the above, I, in order to protect the interest of investors and the integrity of the securities market, in exercise of the powers conferred upon me under section 19 of the Securities and Exchange Board of India Act, 1992 read with sections 11, 11A and 11B thereof and regulation 11 of the PFUTP Regulations, clause 17.1 of DIP Guidelines and regulation 111 of the ICDR Regulations hereby restrain the following entities from accessing the securities market and prohibit them from buying, selling or otherwise dealing in securities, directly or indirectly, in any manner, whatsoever, for the period of three years […]

Shardul, Janak, Somasekhar fended for DLF (Somasekhar wins for one)

Amarchand Mangaldas Delhi managing partner Shardul Shroff appeared for DLF with senior advocate Janak Dwarkadas.

Shroff, briefing senior counsel JJ Bhatt, also appeared for chairman and promoter KP Singh, his son and vice chairman Rajiv Singh and his daughter and director Pia Singh.

JSA Mumbai partner Somasekhar Sundaresan with senior associate Paras K Parekh acted for director GS Talwar and director (legal) Kameshwar Swarup.

Clarification: Talwar was exonerated by Sebi, having been given the “benefit of doubt” by Agarwal because he was a non-executive director who was only involved in high-level strategy.

SEBI was represented by its deputy general manager Pranjal Jayaswal and assistant general manager Sahil Malik.

2007’s IPO law firm (and banker) battalion

The IPO in 2007 involved a veritable who’s who of Indian and foreign legal advisers, with AZB & Partners Delhi acting as domestic counsel for the company and Luthra & Luthra Delhi as book runners’ counsel, according to the prospectus.

Amarchand Mangaldas Mumbai was listed as “special legal counsel to the issue”.

International legal counsel to DLF was White & Case London, and the underwriters relied on Linklaters in London.

Kotak Mahindra Capital Company and DSP Merrill Lynch were global coordinators and book running lead managers, while (now defunct) Lehman Brothers Securities Mumbai was senior book running lead manager.

Mumbai-based Citigroup Global Markets India, Deutsche Equities India, ICICI Securities Primary Dealership and UBS Securities India acted as book running lead managers, with a raft of other banks in various roles on the issue.

HSBC Securities and Capital Markets (India) was the financial advisor to the company.

Photo by Harsh Mangal

SEBI pummels DLF

Comments

veritable whos who 14 Oct 2014, 07:37
+9 -3
Interesting to note that DLF has gone on record to say that [i]DLF and its board were guided by and acted on the advise of eminent legal advisors, merchant bankers and audit firms while formulating its Offer documents. [/i]
Source: ET online edn., 14 Oct
White & Case 14 Oct 2014, 08:15
+3 -1
Yes, what's wrong with that ??!!!

[quote name="veritable whos who"]Interesting to note that DLF has gone on record to say that [i]DLF and its board were guided by and acted on the advise of eminent legal advisors, merchant bankers and audit firms while formulating its Offer documents. [/i]
Source: ET online edn., 14 Oct[/quote]
BZA & Partners 14 Oct 2014, 09:44
+4 -1
We agree. Whats wrong with that ??!!! ;)

[quote name="White & Case"]Yes, what's wrong with that ??!!!

[quote name="veritable whos who"]Interesting to note that DLF has gone on record to say that [i]DLF and its board were guided by and acted on the advise of eminent legal advisors, merchant bankers and audit firms while formulating its Offer documents. [/i]
Source: ET online edn., 14 Oct[/quote][/quote]
Stopping Buck 14 Oct 2014, 12:01
+18 -3
Nothing, except for the impression it gives that none of these eminent legal advisors have any idea of WTF they did... :-)

I'm waiting for the day when these fancy suits are made Truly accountable for what they dish out, charging zillions.
veritable whos who 14 Oct 2014, 12:54
+4 -1
[quote name="Stopping Buck"]Nothing, except for the impression it gives that none of these eminent legal advisors have any idea of WTF they did... :-)

I'm waiting for the day when these fancy suits are made Truly accountable for what they dish out, charging zillions.[/quote]

Exactly the above White & Case and BZA & Partners...
GoodLawyer 15 Oct 2014, 05:54
+4 -1
And the irony was that one of the same eminent Legal Advisors was representing KP Singh and team before SEBI and yet again these eminent advisers will go scott free! I have seen several instances where these eminent firms drafted the transaction documents and when they went to court, the same eminent advisers in thier client's defense pleaded that the the documents were not enforceable!
Lawyer 19 Oct 2014, 05:03
+0 -0
What you are saying does not make sense. What documents not being enforceable.
Good morning ! 14 Oct 2014, 08:16
+1 -0
Good morning, Kian !
kianganz 14 Oct 2014, 08:21
+0 -0
And good afternoon to you madam / sir! :)
F/M 14 Oct 2014, 12:44
+0 -3
"madam" out of hope, "sir" by 'well ok'..! Ha ha.. lawyers!
Say wt? 14 Oct 2014, 09:18
+7 -4
So the eminent legal advisors (read AZB, L&L (Madhurima gets stuck either ways) and AMSS) screwed up in their diligence - and don't give me the bullshit about how they only rely on information provided to them by the Company
go read the order! 14 Oct 2014, 11:56
+5 -0
Law firms and underwriters do documentary diligence, not sebi-style investigation. That's the international practice for corporate deals (save for title verification for real estate).
Mumbai Maniac 14 Oct 2014, 09:49
+24 -7
What is worth finding out is what advice was tendered to DLF by such "eminent legal advisors" during its IPO in 2007. Lawyers and law firms have a critical role to play in determining disclosures to be made in the RHP / prospectus (in addition to others like merchant bankers). So, any such non - disclosure would likely have been made on the advice of the big 3 domestic law firms mentioned in your article. A case of gross negligence could very well be made out against these law firms! This is not DLF's headache alone, thats for sure!
anon 14 Oct 2014, 10:50
+20 -7
Agree with Mumbai Maniac.

Its interesting that quite a few mishaps of AMSS in cap markets are coming out and having an adverse effect on the issuers. Incidentally, the primary cause of this is that AMSS generally toe the line of the bankers as thats where they get the meat of their fees and mandate referrals. The bankers and AMSS are a cosy coterie and mask all advice under the garb of "standard practice and precedent". Its high time that they pull up their socks and be legal counsels advising on regulatory requirements. Else they are going to continue to see this trend. and the coterie's cosiness extends to all the other "cap markets firms"
Boutique 14 Oct 2014, 21:09
+13 -1
Always good to work with a boutique law firm
azzuri 15 Oct 2014, 08:06
+0 -4
you certainly knw a lot abt AMSS....or is it that u were rejected in an intrvw and now take every opportunity available for commenting on AMSS
Anonymous 27 Oct 2014, 06:58
+0 -0
agree... capital market lawyers cannot think beyond 'market practice'...
hubba 14 Oct 2014, 18:23
+15 -6
this is clearly based on no knowledge of how law firms do and are expected to carry out due diligences. now i have no link to this deal whatsoever and have no particular fancy for any of the named firms either, but shareholding changes and structures are looked at by lawyers based entirely on public documents, regulatory filings and company provided information. there is no scope for investigating family or insider related connections. if a company suppresses information, there is actually very little that a lawyer can do to investigage it, based on its mandate.

it is in fact sad that after carrying out what is purported to be a sham transaction with questionable motives, the stock defence of relying on legal advice is being taken. did lawyers also advise the company people to execute this questionable transaction?

this is exactly why legal opinions keep costing more and more and include more and more caveats. because even partners of law firms know that any given day, one of their platinum clients will come back and spite their lawyers' reputation and professional competence for shady deals and violations.
kianganz 14 Oct 2014, 18:26
+5 -1
Agree that this would have probably been difficult to catch in typical IPO diligence, especially during the heady days of 2007 when most of the firms involved would have closed at least 1 IPO a week or so... ;)

However, another question to ask is whether any external lawyers ever helped DLF structure any of those alleged sham transactions, or whether they came up with them entirely in-house?
Anon 14 Oct 2014, 18:37
+1 -0
Kian's question is spot on - Some lawyers did of course help DLF structure the fraudulent transactions, and it would a good thing for India, if they are exposed.
confused 15 Oct 2014, 06:17
+0 -4
So the country's arguably best law firms charging a bomb. Simply missed this detail, that has now, financially immensely damaged DLF ?

not possible.

This was deliberate omission for illegal gains.
hubba 15 Oct 2014, 12:31
+0 -0
how do you assume that lawyers, big or small, had advised on and cleared the transaction? in your experience, do companies unfailingly consultant external counsel for every step that they take? without doing anything in house?
confused 16 Oct 2014, 07:59
+2 -1
No.

What I am saying is that this is such a blatant red flag, that if this was not pointed out to the DLF management shows error on part of the lawyers, and if shown, but ignored by DLF shows the DLF management in poor light.

When a client does something that is blatantly wrong, its the responsibility of the lawyer to run after the client and tell him again and again that this is absolutely, totally, horrendously wrong, and will have extreme negative impact.

once that is done, then if DLF had ignored the advise, it would be DLF problem and DLF's alone.

I can bet that this red flag was not raised. or if raised not much noise was made.

why ? the only defence that comes forward is, look that was someone else's responsibility.

no sir. it was the lawyers.

The only reason they did not make noise as this was work, paper pushing at best. while billing for deep due diligence that was suppose to be done. and the consequence when things if found wrong were to be corrected.

Please don't blame this as in-house's fault.

When things go right all firms dance on rooftop saying that they are the best.

I find it ridiculous for someone to argue that now that things are wrong, its in-house counsels fault.

btw, has the inhouse counsel been fired ?

chances are nil for that.
hubba 16 Oct 2014, 13:24
+1 -1
this is still a little presumptious, no?

Im just trying to give a neutral view on this. read all my comments on this thread. If lawyers are complicit, they are. And that would be sad and illegal. But just because some firms overworked their associates and made a lot of money during a boom does not automatically mean that they were not trying to do their job. being so convinced that they were at fault is just myopic.

But in truth, tell me, what document would you ask to check if some share transferee was related to someone?

What item in your requisition list or your clarificatory questions do you generally ask to avoid this situation?
confused 16 Oct 2014, 15:03
+3 -1
No.

why is it presumptuous ?

i find your argument that there is a documentary error that has now resulted in a massive massive financial loss to DLF and its not the fault of the lawyers, pretty wild.

Some firms overworked their associates ? well, they were charging top dollars, to precisely prevent this kind of nonsense. lawyer, espicially at the top, are paid top dollars precisely for this kind of diligence and advise.

As for your counter query, as to how will one check if the share transferee was related to someone, I would strongly suggest you read the judgment above.

There was a criminal case, an appeal in the Delhi high court and then a high court directed investigation against DLF!

so yeah, in this particular case, it was beyond doubt that the companies were sham. Even the day to day expenses of these sham companies were being taken care of by another DLF entity!
Read the judgment.

The level of legal stupidity in this case is same if not more, than the stupidity shown in the SAHARA case.

The legal provisions are cut & dry, plain & simple. You either follow them or fall foul of them.

you pay a premium legal fees to be on the right side of law.

DLF paid a premium. and got royally scammed.
hubba 17 Oct 2014, 13:07
+6 -0
So you are defending DLF here? That they didnt know what was happening and all the law firms scammed the cash cow?

First, my friend, read what I have read. I have not said there was a documentary error. Neither am I posing that as a defence.

Next, if you had read carefully, you would have realised that neither was I using overworked associates as a defence for incorrect legal advice.

Third, please try not to ask me to read the judgment. It arose out of a prolonged forensic investigation. The fund flow that you are trumpeting about is at best something that could be caught in a financial diligence. Not a legal one. If you had enough knowledge on how transactions are run, across the world, you would know that legal diligences are not the same. In practice. Or purpose. Unfortunately you dont.

Fourth, by trying to deflect my question, you have not answered my question: if you were doing the diligence, what document would you have asked for to check whether insiders and family members are the share transferees.

In substance, I find it odd that you are so keen to blame the law firms and defend the prosecuted and convicted, on the fascinating premise that these firms are reputed and making a pot of cash. Does not seem to have factual or legal basis. Not even circumstantial basis actually.

May be the law firms actively or passively helped DLF pull this off. If that very unlikely scenario emerged, of course they would be liable. But common sense suggests that their reputations in any event would be dearer to them, because that is what they bank on to generate their revenues, not scams. Legally (and factually), if DLF or its folks have pulled this stunt, irrespective of what their battery of advisors from across the world may have done, they would remain liable.

As much as I am enjoying constantly posting on this thread, I would like to move on to other stories and other things. So, next time please read before you react.

Best,
kianganz 17 Oct 2014, 13:12
+1 -0
Nicely put...
PB 16 Oct 2014, 03:37
+0 -0
It was AB, not me.
hubba 15 Oct 2014, 12:29
+0 -0
agree kian. that's the question that even i raised. if lawyers have advised on the so called sham structure and given a go ahead, then of course there is an issue there; no doubt.

but really whether one week or not, if they had a window to catch it, they should have. but the bottom line remains that there would not have been one :)
Anon 14 Oct 2014, 11:33
+4 -2
This was obviously planned fraud by DLF honchos, question is did legal advisers play along, wink away or knowingly look the other way

Don't think DLF will sue these lawyers
hmm 14 Oct 2014, 12:57
+2 -0
kian,u shld intrvw the partners who were heading the respective teams ;)
Scooter- 14 Oct 2014, 14:03
+1 -0
Good luck with that
kianganz 14 Oct 2014, 14:08
+1 -0
Yeah, I have a feeling even getting them to go on the record would be impossible... :)
Curious Cat 14 Oct 2014, 15:15
+0 -0
Usually what journalists do is reach out to the people concerned with specific questions and then inform the public that XYZ refused to comment. Just a thought.
Thoughtful 14 Oct 2014, 21:08
+10 -1
This thought of urs seem straight out of NLS
golden leaf 14 Oct 2014, 18:18
+0 -2
Kian, I think this case has presented you the opportunity to delve deep into liability of law firms and that no Indian firms are insured. What if DLF sues the legal advisors; or claims indemnity from them (for the loss suffered). But it won't happen, will it? ;-)
Laayer 14 Oct 2014, 20:36
+16 -2
Why do u ask questions like this? Have you ever read an engagement letter which a client signs with a law firm? The liability of the law firm or the partner isnonly to the extent of the fees paid by the client... If clients could sue the lawyers and get the damages, Vodafone would have lived happily ever after....
golden leaf 15 Oct 2014, 09:31
+6 -9
Dear laayer, in all such engagement letters the two standard exceptions are -- gross negligence and fraud. So if you have advised a structure which is in essence fraudulent, illegal or could be termed as grossly negligent --then no clause in your engagement letter can protect you. The same is the scene internationally. the only exception is that in other jurisdictions, there is a tradition of clients suing law firms which has ensured that all international law firms have robust insurance covers--whereas in India there is no tradition of holding lawyers accountable.
silver leaf 15 Oct 2014, 10:00
+0 -0
You are incorrect in assuming that no Indian law firm is insured. I can assure you that at least one law firm is insured.
silver and gold root 16 Oct 2014, 03:41
+0 -0
and it is mine. now can we focus on the issue here, please?
green lantern 14 Oct 2014, 15:13
+2 -0
These are not points of legal due diligence. More financial due diligence-and not even that. Maybe forensic due diligence. It's easy to co-villanize the advisors but not legally tenable-not in this case.
Before anyone is sued 4 defama 14 Oct 2014, 15:28
+0 -3
Who advised on the cap market transaction and who was responsible for the due diligence?
DLF 14 Oct 2014, 19:09
+18 -0
DLF' s managers house wife's lawyers..
BHOnsle 14 Oct 2014, 21:11
+12 -0
LMAO
Vkl kun the?! 15 Oct 2014, 05:41
+1 -0
Do we know the lawyers that worked on this IPO? Rumour has it that only a few of them are still working at the same firms, leaving out the lala jis ofcourse! And, here's a joke that every BZA, Delhi lawyer will relate to for laughs- Did lalaji send legal notices to erring associates by SMS??!! Rofl !!
Maharaja Mac 15 Oct 2014, 08:49
+3 -2
Don't agree that lawyers can completely wash their hands off this..its one thing for a company to suppress information....but in most diligences, the company offical(s) acts like a postman delivering documents as REQUESTED for by the lawyers. The lawyers (law firm) has a duty to ensure that all relevant documents / information is in fact provided by the company and to actively seek additional documents / ask relevant questions to find out facts. Diligence is a fact - finding exercise undertaken by lawyers. Not being able to uncover that the company had 3 additional subsidiaries falls squarely within the law firms' responsibility. I do believe that this info is also publicly available.
Spicy Mac 16 Oct 2014, 03:50
+0 -0
And what gives you that impression, uncle? What was known then as the fe_c_e structure was acknowledged by the advisors - underwriters and lawyers alike. It was developed by the DLF team, with advice from their retained tax and realty lawyers/advisors. It was blessed by the SEBI reviewer as well. Its not possible for the book to be cleared otherwise. The W-P nexus has spelt doom for the group with the change in government and it was not totally unexpected by insiders either.
Magic Square 15 Oct 2014, 09:35
+27 -0
I blame Trilegal.
Blame 16 Oct 2014, 07:16
+14 -3
National law school is to be blamed...
Luxor 15 Oct 2014, 10:48
+7 -1
On the role of lawyers on advising on this transaction, given that this is a legal fora, it is expected to be of most interest. But the comments really show the ignorance of practice, the law and even the order. If you read the order, SEBI has done an 'investigation'. It has identified the relationship the 'housewives' shared with DLF employees (not directors or promoters mind you, employees), checked their bank account details, source of funds etc. and concluded, in its wisdom, that hence, DLF 'controlled' the entity. Once the commentators of this forum graduate from their law schools, they will realise they are not James Bond and they (lawyers) do 'due diligence' i.e. check the documents and satisfy themselves about veracity of information to that limited extent. They also don't get the benefit of checking one statement of fact in an 800 page document, for 3 years, and come to a conclusion. These practices are not India specific, world over. And it's not just a matter of practice (which can be changed), it is all that your qualification and practice area allows you to do. If you don't understand these basics, do you even really understand corporate law practice?
hubba 15 Oct 2014, 12:36
+8 -2
well said. this thread reads more like a long list of self righteous armchair critics with no knowledge of how a diligence works, rubbing their hands with glee at a chance to mudsling some big firms.

anyway it is a company's prerogative to follow the law and not feign ignorance and pass the buck to their advisors. and in any event i think that lawyers involved would have caveated somewhere in some manner to protect their skin.

i say all this without any association with this deal; simply because the ignorance demonstrated by some people here is stupendous.
Curious Cat 15 Oct 2014, 13:11
+4 -1
*sling mud at* some big firms. Mudslinging = the act of slinging mud at somebody. You can't *mudsling* anyone.

There. Fixed it for you.
Hakuna Matata 16 Oct 2014, 08:55
+2 -1
You need a mate and a change in job, Curious ! That correction, unlike this free piece of advise, is not worth anyone's while, even yours :)

[quote name="Curious Cat"]*sling mud at* some big firms. Mudslinging = the act of slinging mud at somebody. You can't *mudsling* anyone.

There. Fixed it for you.[/quote]
Curious Cat 16 Oct 2014, 16:05
+7 -1
That correction, unlike this piece of *advice*.
Anon 19 Oct 2014, 15:30
+1 -0
Keep it up Curious
veritable whos who 16 Oct 2014, 09:05
+0 -0
hubba - yes, there are many armchair critics out here, but one cannot ignore the issues at hand. If you are corporate lawyer, having carried out a DD, you would know how templatised the legal DD process has become over the years. Its basically one requisition list after another without much analysis and real thought process going into what data is required, pending and/or requires clarification.

THe point here is simple, did the law firms advising on the IPO actually show 'diligence' in seeking and following up on data required for the disclosures which were not made? Remember, these were the heady days of 2006-2007, when every large law firm with a good cap markets practice was doing 10 ECM deals at a time - i will not be surprised if such critical data was missed by a PQE 1-2 year associate who had no clue what he/she was doing in the transaction other than making an honest attempt to reproduce data in good English in a 500 pg offer document!
hubba 16 Oct 2014, 13:28
+0 -0
im not disagreeing with you. and as i see, you are not disagreeing with me either.

like ive tried to say elsewhere, there is no defence if lawyers were in the wrong. But just because BigLaw was involved, this holier than though attitude of shaming them seems presumptous and immature.
Anon 19 Oct 2014, 15:32
+1 -1
But shaming with holier than thou attitude does make more sense when BigLaw charging top dollar is involved
Guest 16 Oct 2014, 10:29
+3 -0
I wonder whether it would be appropriate for DLF (or anyone else) to blame its lawyers/merchant bankers. If a company receives a tax claim notice from the IT Department, can it claim that their tax advisors did not advise them properly and therefore the company is not to be blamed or fined for not paying due taxes?
Guest 16 Oct 2014, 15:51
+2 -0
Blaming any of the law firms for this is nonsensical. Presumably, the auditors of the company did not list in the 2006-07 accounts any of the three companies as subs for the same reason that the lawyers did not. And the SEBI report refers to some 300 odd DLF entities where shareholding changed during that time - so what exactly does one have to do? And what exactly is the sham transaction - the change in shareholding itself. And to what end was this done, presumably? To cover up the FIR?

If DLF says it has exited these companies a year and a half before the RHP was filed, and auditors have signed off on it, no law firm is going to engage in a control test to see if there were shadow directors, board was accustomed to act etc. That is the sort you can pick up if you're doing a forensic, not in any IPO/M&A diligence.

To suggest any of the firms were actively involved in keeping it out is even more nonsensical. There are those pick-up-the-phone border line deals where law firms may skirt boundaries, but spinning companies around is legal counsel which can satisfactorily come from the GC. No law firm is ever going to let you do it and take up diligence responsibility.

Oh, by the way, was that law firm which drafted one of the Sahara companies DRHP caught out? Those zillion dollar OFCDs of Sahara never existed!!!
G Real Estate 17 Oct 2014, 11:07
+3 -0
A lawyer duty is to advise the client and fight for the client, only. Whichever the law firm involved during the said time, they advised and gave their report on the basis of facts, seen and unforeseen. Now, its a company duty to accept or reject the same. It can be termed as "professional error" but cant come under "legal wrong"

But yes, problem starts when a lawyer doesn't understand and just issue a title report as per wish of a company.

I have myself, drafted the report and just took the signature of a partner (law firm) and title report was ready. Now who is at fault is tough to establish because a company cant be fully 100 % satisfied with the report and for sale and offer, report will be manipulated.

In the end, its a company fault and no one else because a lawyer "advises" doesn't "order to execute".
Curious Cat 17 Oct 2014, 14:51
+1 -0
I understand what you're trying to say but it doesn't hold in all cases. For example, if you go to a doctor and he prescribes you wrong medicines which you then take and die, is it suicide?
Mystery Man 18 Oct 2014, 10:37
+1 -5
@Hubba : Who are you man? Seem to have a lot of time to defend law firms??!! And I find your arguments extremely specious. In an M&A deal diligence, if a corporate lawyer is unable to unearth anything that may have a legal impact on the company in the future (say a regulatory consent has never been obtained coz the company didn't know that had to be obtained), that is a FAILURE of the lawyer doing the diligence. And merely saying u don't belong to any of these firms doesn't mean we will believe you!! C"mon! Luthra or Amarchand corp comm team probably!
Chutzpa 19 Oct 2014, 03:25
+9 -1
Hubba hubba..
Lawyer 19 Oct 2014, 04:56
+0 -2
@Mystery Man - Who are you? Can't be either a Capital Markets or an M&A lawyer. Obviously you have no idea that due diligences are based on the information and papers dcuments to the law firm. How on earth is a law firm supposed to do a forensic analysis to uncover whether shadow directors or shareholders had been used?

If a company actively conceals information or confirms that the subsidiaries are held by unrelated shareholders - there is no way a lawyer can do anything to find out whether the shareholders are in fact wives of employees. This was a matter of fact and not of law.

Now I don't know when the IPO was happening or whether the law firms were aware of this structure or looked the other way (if they did it would have been because it would have been structured to be within the four corners of the black letter law even though it may have been structured to defeat the purpose of the law). As a transactional lawyer I know I have done many transactions which were in the grey zone and may have been structured to get around some regulation. That's the way the business world and corporate lawyers function.

To conclude, it wouldn't have been failure or an error on the part of the lawyers advising on the IPO. Either, the company did not disclose this transaction or this "structuring" was done with one or more legal advisors to the issue (which is a rare possibility have given that the Bookruner's legal counsel would not have cleared it even if the Company's legal counsel did).
Ex Luthra 19 Oct 2014, 05:01
+1 -1
I thought DLF was a platinum Luthra & Luthra client. Why was Rajiv Luthra not in the picture and Shardul Shroff defending DLF and KP Singh?

Interesting thing about Amarchand being "Special Counsel to the Issue" - this is quite unusual. Usually there is only India Legal Counsel to the Company and India Legal Counsel to the Merchant Bankers acting as the Book running lead managers along with international legal counsel. I had heard about this for the DLF IPO which was at its time a marquee IPO. Does anyone know the gossip about why Amarchand had to be brought on as special counsel - even though L&L and AZB were advising on the issue?
reason 25 Oct 2014, 13:55
+0 -0
was that SEBI and RBI clearance was assured after a particular special counsel was appointed. Also, L&L and AZB were conflicted on a couple of sensitive matters. They had to refile the DRHP twice before that.
hubba 19 Oct 2014, 13:46
+3 -0
Sir,

I feel suitably chastised by your range of understanding on this subject , the law and deal running (not the least demonstrated by the ability to use "specious" and "coz" in the same comment). And your related powers of deduction about my identity and time utilisation patterns.

I will be more careful henceforth with my callous comments.

Remorsefully,

Prodigal Hubba

:)