Shameless plug: Bombay HC judge cites ‘quite excellent’ LI-Mint article in a quite excellent copyright order

Woot: Justice Gautam Patel liked our article!
Woot: Justice Gautam Patel liked our article!

In another pragmatic order dealing with the until-recently fairly haphazard regime of John Doe blocking of pirated movies on websites, Justice Gautam Patel of the Bombay high court has cited an article by Legally India published in Mint as “quite excellent”, “extremely well researched, thoughtful and incisive” (see excerpt above).

First of all, our personal thanks to Justice Patel for the very generous mention and praise. If you haven’t yet, please do also check out the full article in Mint or on Legally India, which highlighted lacunae and technical issues in the John Doe blocking jurisprudence that had developed organically in the last few years.

(Patel incidentally, had earlier also referred to Spicy IP blog posts on the topic as persuasive in his orders).

And it’s a great order too, exhibiting great nuance from Patel in dealing with what is clearly a tricky technical and legal issue that the current laws are ill equipped to deal with.

By background, the original plaintiff, Eros International, was represented by RM Partners partner Nikhil Rodrigues, and had secured a blocking order of URLs relating to the Bollywood film Dishoom.

The 11th respondent Tata Communications, represented by senior counsel Viraag Tulzapurkar and instructed by Trilegal counsel Ashish Bhan, however, applied to the court arguing that its previous order of directing an error message to be displayed when a URL was blocked, was “technically not feasible”.

As first reported by Spicy IP, Patel in his 12 August order rejected Tata’s argument that it was not possible for a service provider to customise website error messages for each blocked page.

But Patel made a concession following Tulzapurkar’s submissions, allowing service providers to post a more generic error message that would not have to include the names of the case under which a URL was blocked and the names of the lawyers and parties involved, but would simply state:

This URL has been blocked under the instructions of the Competent Government Authority or in compliance with of a Court of competent jurisdiction. Viewing, downloading, exhibiting or duplicating an illicit copy of the contents under this URL is punishable as an offence under the laws of India, including but not limited to under section 63, 63-A, 65 and 65-A of the Copyright Act, 1957 which prescribe imprisonment for 3 years and also a fine of upto Rs 3,00,000/-.

Any person aggrieved by any such blocking of this URL may contact [.] at [.] (nodal officer detail) who will, within 48 hours, provide you the details of relevant proceedings under which you can approach the relevant High Court or Authority for redressal of your grievance.

While Patel noted that this solution was “sub optimal”, since it depended on the “unmonitored, unsupervised” nodal officer, over whom there was “no oversight whatever”, being prompt in their response.

If a nodal officer did not respond, this would leave little recourse for those whose URLs were blocked in error - such as the legitimate DVD seller whom we interviewed in our Mint article after he found his website erroneously blocked.

Patel also explicitly approved of a proposal by Professor Shamnad Basheer quoted in our Mint article, that the idea of an ombudsman as a self-regulatory body with responsibility for blocking was “indeed appealing” and “worth exploring and developing further”.

Basheer has written in more detail about what such an ombudsman could look like in a subsequent article in The Wire.

The effect of the order - with blocking notices on websites mentioning jail terms - were misreported to mean that those visiting the URL had opened themselves up to criminal action.

However, a blog on Legally India by NLU Delhi’s CCG clarified that nothing had legally changed and that merely viewing the blocked URLs was not a crime under the law.

Bombay HC Gautam Patel Order on Tatas and Ombudsman citing Legally India and Mint

Comments

clownflattery 1 Sept 2016, 03:08
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Here's a quote of Justice Gautam Patel about Bal Thackeray, in the context of the 1992 Mumbai riots, from an article he had written prior to becoming a judge: [i]"Against those who instigated, triggered and participated in the carnage, and ravaged forever the face of an entire city, nothing followed. Nothing, that is, except two decades later, a valorization of Bal Thackeray that is as perplexing as it is disquieting. Not because he had legions of followers, but because in accepting the elision of the past of people like him, we move ourselves closer to fascism and an acceptance of everything we should not aim to be, everything our Constitution demands we not become." Here's the article:

http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/XYRvSCCOhN7MMXwEqChq5O/The-poisoned-earth.html

And now Justice Patel is adjudicating the supposed fascist Balasaheb's will, like a Jew deciding Hitler's last will and testament. Will Justice Patel's bias against this supposed fascism influence his verdict against Uddhavji? The suspense is killing me!
kianganz 1 Sept 2016, 07:40
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Interesting.

But from everything I've heard, Patel J is supposed to be a very good judge who writes very informed and articulate judgments.

Also, I don't know anything about the status of this case, but if the parties to the will have a problem with Patel deciding on Thackeray's will, couldn't they have raised objections or asked for a recusal? (Or will they only do that in appeal, if they are unhappy with his judgment? :)
clownflattery 1 Sept 2016, 17:47
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Why do you proceed on the assumption that the parties to the will are aware of Patel J's biases!? Perhaps LI should do more to create awareness about his biases. Anywhoo, Hum toh duur sey baith key tamaasha dekhney waalo mey se hai. Although I did like the late Balasaheb. And I dislike the "very informed and articulate" Patel J. Much too arrogant and heavy handed a judge. He treats junior advocates like shit and loves his own voice. But congratulations to you on the 'shameless' plug! Here's hoping for more such validations for LI's sake. Peace and good luck!
Guest 1 Sept 2016, 04:36
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Sorry, but I find this very disturbing. US judges quote books and law journal articles by Richard Posner and Ivy League professors, but our judges do casual google searches and cite Wikipedia articles, blog posts and newspaper articles. I wish we had a judiciary in India which uses Westlaw and Hein Online for research. In this case, the judge could have at least read articles by established IP experts instead of Kian.
Bored 1 Sept 2016, 07:05
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Absolutely... It is of course not the content of the idea but the source that matters. It is trite that any idea is worthless unless published in Westlaw or Hein.

There is clearly no difference whatsoever between examining an idea for self regulation (in the realm of policy), appearing in a newspaper article and citing a newspaper article as an authority for a proposition of law.

Judicial recognition/ discussion of the viability of an idea in a newspaper by an articulate and knowledgeable Judge of a Constitutional Court is again ofcourse a pointless exercise.

After all, what good ever came from a newspaper article.
Suggestion : Despite your aversion to Google, perhaps you could try googling the following 3 words together and have a look at what comes up - " "The Forgotten Prisoners" "Amnesty International" "Peter Benenson"
Bored 1 Sept 2016, 07:14
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Edit : "3 phrases" not words..
kianganz 1 Sept 2016, 07:56
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Substantially agree with 2.1 Bored above.

One thing that's perhaps also worth considering here also, with all due respect, is that the output of most domestic academics is rather limited and most Indian legal journals are not very widely read or internationally respected.

There may be exceptions here or there, but from what I've seen and heard, most Indian scholars or lawyers with an academic bent who write good articles look to publish abroad, or on websites and blogs, like Spicy IP, Indian Constitutional Law and Philosophy, Indian Corporate Law Blog, Law and Other Things, NLU Delhi's CCG, and so on...

http://spicyip.com/
https://indconlawphil.wordpress.com/
http://indiacorplaw.blogspot.com/
https://lawandotherthings.blogspot.in/

Plus, I'm not sure about global trends, but I assume that this must be happening globally too.

Sure, there's additional value and credibility to being published in a peer reviewed journal, but for hot-button topics and quick takes and analysis, blogging (or newspapers) are hard to beat.
Guest 1 Sept 2016, 15:38
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You are right Kian about the lack of research output and poor quality of Indian academicians. Then why don't you ever do stories on it??? You glorify NLU placements but neglect how bad the faculty is. NLS Bangalore LLB alumni are full-time professors at places like Azim Premji and Jindal but not NLS! Same for NALSAR, NUJS, GNLU etc. Why is this??
Again? 3 Sept 2016, 06:10
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NLS Alumni also teach at NLS. More NLS Alumni teach at NLS than at NALSAR, NLUD or Azim Premji. 4-5 opposed to 1 or 2 at other places. (not aware of any teaching at Jindal).
Sometimes it has to do for reasons such as location (they may want to be in Delhi), or that their area of interest is not a course that is offered in NLS' BA LLB programme viz why they pick Azim Premji, another prestigious institute. How are you attributing bad academia to NLS? Kian said most Indian scholars or lawyers with an academic bent who write good articles look to publish abroad, or on websites and blogs, like Spicy IP, Indian Constitutional Law and Philosophy, Indian Corporate Law Blog, Law and Other Things...
ALL OF THESE ARE RUN BY NLS ALUMNI. They also contribute to each other's blogs.
Guest5 3 Sept 2016, 22:53
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At NLSIU there are three alumni teaching at present. That is less than the number of alumni teaching at NALSAR and NUJS.
Guest 1 Sept 2016, 15:32
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What an absurd comment by Bored. We are talking about judgements here! For example Shashi Tharoor writes short and punchy newspaper articles on Indian politics, but judges are ultimately expected to cite Seervai or a journal article by MP Singh, Baxi etc. That is the point being made.
Bored 2 Sept 2016, 11:05
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I'll bite... Your comment does not warrant the length of what follows but i'm bored so..

The FIRST "point" (that you appear to have missed owing to you either failing to read the order or your inability to comprehend the contents of it) is that Justice Patel in this order did not "cite" Kian for a proposition of law. He discussed an idea. You appear to be having trouble comprehending the difference and I would have explained it to you but your Shashi Tharoor short punchy newspaper articles on politics reference leads to me to conclude that it would be a pointless exercise so i'll just stop here on this.

The SECOND "point" is that you appear to believe that the container is more important than the content. Ergo you criticize the citing of a newspaper article but appear to have no view at all as to the validity, pros or cons of the actual statistics or ideas cited. This to my mind is intellectual elitism, albeit with a lack of intellect.

The THIRD "point" that you may want to consider is that this is an order pertaining to primarily to Copyright and blocking of websites.

To my limited knowledge, Seervai & M.P Singh are considered authorities on constitutional law. If you could provide me with a reference as to where to purchase Seervai's seminal work "Copyright Law of India" or M.P Singh's oft cited "V.N Shukla's Online Piracy in India", I would be deeply obliged.

As you seem to have comprehension trouble, I will also point out Seervai (sadly) passed away in 1996. The last edition of his "Constitutional Law of India" is (tragically) the 4th Edition in which Vol 3 is of vintage 1996 (Vol 1 - 1991 and Vol 2 1993). I have pretty much read these books cover to cover and I do not recall ever coming across the word "internet" (I actually just went through the Index as well). If you could locate it, please do let me know

By contrast, VSNL, if I am not mistaken, first launched internet services in India in 1995.

As regards Baxi, I have had had the privilege of meeting him and listening to some of his lectures. He writes (and very very well) on a wide range of topics but is primarily concerned with Constitutional and Human Rights Issues. His last publication on Copyright appears to be in 1988. http://upendrabaxi.in/ - See I'm citing Upendra Baxi on Upendra Baxi but as I'm referring to his website (horror !! sin !!!), my citation is obviously worthless.

Which then brings us to Kian's point in 2.1.2, which you can read for yourself.

I would however agree that if Kian was quoting from an article Basheer wrote then the Judge ought to have read and referenced the source article but Basheer's quotes in Kian's article appear to me (correct me if I am wrong) to be flowing out of an interview or discussion.

In any event, I wouldn't give 2 shits if those quotes are attributable to Kian's dog, as long as there is sense and logic in them (refer "Point 2").

The world is changing my friend and the courts are in most cases left far behind. Don't diss the rare bursts of progress.
green lantern 1 Sept 2016, 05:32
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good going kian. this would be huge in more mature jurisdictions. hope people here realize its value. big thing for mint too.
Guest 1 Sept 2016, 05:58
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awesome!!
Confused Zeus Says . . 1 Sept 2016, 07:03
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Congrats, Kian. Good show.
Guest 1 Sept 2016, 07:24
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Hi Kian,

Can we get the copy of the order wherein the Judge has mentioned all this?
kianganz 1 Sept 2016, 07:35
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It was in a tiny link at the end of the article but have now embedded it in the bottom of the article.
Innuendo-oh oh 1 Sept 2016, 07:29
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Sorry! But when you call something a shameless plug, there is just one 'plug' that comes to my abhorrently dirty head. :D

But well done!
kianganz 1 Sept 2016, 07:36
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Thanks, but yes, you really do have an abhorrently dirty head! :)
Justice Patel 1 Sept 2016, 08:26
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Please call "Hon'ble Judge" or "Justice Patel". Proper respect must be given to the judges and the judgment of the Court.
Guest 1 Sept 2016, 09:46
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Dear Sir,

Please also read

http://www.legallyindia.com/Pre-law-student/rti-d-minutes-of-bci-reveal-how-multi-crore-bar-exam-contract-was-awarded-to-mystery-5th-bidder-ites-horizon-longread

http://www.legallyindia.com/Bar-Bench-Litigation/bci-sends-legally-india-6-page-defamation-notice-over-bar-exam-rti-story-cc-s-pm-all-judges-journalists

http://www.legallyindia.com/Bar-Bench-Litigation/li-responds-to-manan-kumar-mishra-legal-notice
Guest 12 Mar 2022, 05:50
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Came across this while researching on IP laws. Very sad that the old LI is no more and Kian has abandoned his student readers. We have no faith in Bar & Bench as they are conformists.