Let’s get out with it. I want to apply for nliu via vacancies. Also, as per certain threads on LI, early this year NLIU had stable placements compared to NLUJ as they got more offers. Ofc these threads aren’t the sole criterion for my college decisions. So can both the alumni of these nlus (including running year students) paint a good comparative picture? No toxic trolling please.

The qualifications and experiences of a Vice-Chancellor (VC) may not always be relevant for running a law school. It requires a different kind of temperament, attitude, determination, experience, vision, and ability. That is why some law schools led by decorated individuals may not be doing well.

Regarding football, please speak for yourself, not for the rest of the world. As for the NLU d*** measuring contests, you're right, nobody should care.

PS: I would personally suggest using "rat's fart", rather than "rat's ass" from next time - personally, I think "rat's fart" is more hard-hitting and conveys the point more effectively.

I have been working at a law firm since the past 1 year. I never got any retainer agreement. Now I am on notice and joining a B school this year. I have heard that during placements and salary negotiations, offer letters have to be submitted. What should I do? I don’t have anything to show except for the experience certificate I will ask my firm for. Please advise.

bruh :| we write upwards of 8000 words each trimester, the only difference is NLS does not inflate its grades like some other universities, and all end term papers are fully hypo based, there's no questions like "WhaT is MEDical NeGliGEncE?" LMAO, boy if you are getting thats good only but dont fool yourself into thinking you exert yourself more in terms of academics than we do lol.

Oh yes, i remember hearing this in office in the first week itself. That's actually bad. But I don't think it is fair to bar a certain college for such reasons if the student was not even picked up through its placement drive. I know it's not official, but sad to see one person ruining other people's opportunities and chances.

I understand where you get your sense of injury from but it has no relationship to this conversation. You understand that you and your parents can be hardworking and still get nowhere without public infrastructure right? Do you think everyone who works gets somewhere? Do you think that the relatively affordable good education of NLUs is private? Have you missed all the land acquisition and public funding that created these institutions. Or that IDIA was started by a public university profession with support from the university and students who were willing to their labor for free into building it and his classmates whose earnings came from their education at a public universities. Without public universities, there would be no IDIA.

Your precious Britain has had its school free lunch program cancelled and its university staff are out protesting because their work conditions are terrible. The irony is that this access to work you love so much is a public program. Rhodes scholars can't make that in India but bureaucrats and politicians can. If you want to sit somewhere else and complain, that's within your rights. You certainly have good reasons to complain. But it is these UPSC people you look down your nose at who might make things better. If you want to be childish enough to extend your ire against a few public servants into a vendetta against all of them, feel free.

Please go read a little abut bureaucracies. These white people whose feet you worship at invented in the Indian bureaucracy and its ego/backside-massaging, kickbacks and bribes .Please find me a bureaucracy of a large centrally administered country that does not push paper. Or may be you think elves co-ordinate everything. Newsflash, You can respect people who work for your country without being a bhakt. Not that anyone who sees Rishi Sunak and other elite snobs in expensive suits as the epitome of integrity would understand. I would tell you to stuff yourself in a bin but. you're pretty much there with your internalised racism.

I'm kinda surprised at this thread. This idea that because poor people from villages and small towns aspire for UPSC, their aspirations are some how equally prestigious as a rhodes scholarship.. something is wrong there?

I'm the first to admit that it takes an incredible amount of privilege to even dream of getting the rhodes scholarship. I went to law school not knowing what it is, and not even dreaming about applying because it just seemed so unreachable. Years later I wish I had given myself the opportunity to apply and to work toward it. It's a good goal. The worst thing about being poor is not really the lack of material resources- you can get around that. The worst thing is the soft bigotry of low expectations- from others and from ourselves. Even your dreams are poor. The system wins when poor people convince themselves they better not aspire to things like rhodes, that those things are not made for them and therefore aspiring to those things is not desirable, and in fact, people who think that those things are desirable must be bigoted and elitist and snobbish.

Getting the rhodes scholarship undeniably makes your life better and launches your career into a new and better stratosphere. You go from wanting a bank job to turning down offers from McKinsey. Rhodes scholars have undeniably greater impact in society than the thousands of IAS/ IPS/ IRS officers in this country. I couldn't name more than 5 top level IAS officers who have done things that have changed the course of history, I can name many many rhodes scholars who have done that, Girish Karnad, Montek Singh Ahluwalia, Sagarika Ghose, Sanjeev Sanyal, Menaka Guruswamy in this country, but in other countries, I mean Bill Clinton, Hubble, Naomi Wolf, Ronan Farrow- American rhodes scholars alone have changed the course of history.

Why do poor students do this? why do we not give ourselves a chance and try and find virtue in a lack of ambition or a lack of traditional success? How is that not self injurious?

For what its worth, many wonderful rhodes scholars come from humble backgrounds. Girish Karnads mom was a poor widow all through his childhood, Sudhirs Krishnaswamys dad was a watchman, Bill Clinton was raised by a single mom on the brink of poverty. Rahul Bajaj went to- what? Nagpur University? And hes blind- and theres an aspirational success story if one wants it- im sure there are others but I wont go on. The point being- we need not constrain ourselves to only what society has deemed is good for us.

I really think we need to stop thinking about identity as destiny and burrowing into that.

I'm sorry, but if you think it's better to be a pen-pusher and bootlicker working for a semi-literate goon with criminal cases, rather than a professor at Oxford, then your mindset is indeed chapri. In fact, the reason India is underdeveloped and corrupt is because of the IAS and IPS.

Top comment. It does seem from the comments on LI that most of the users are from non-metros and non-T1 law schools, as you say. From that perspective, the UPSC stanning and Rhodes dissing makes sense. We shouldn't be too upset about it because Rhodes is still considered more prestigious among the NLU kids who matter and the really bright ones will always choose Rhodes over UPSC.

Ye tum jaise wanna be rhode-ies he belittle kar sakte ho kisi ki job ko choti moti bol ke. Khud toh bade Ambani ban jaate ho? Oops sorry tum toh wahi log ho na jo paper are paper publish karo law school journals mein (even at 40) in which you’ll give some arm chair inputs like Government should do this should do that but god forbid you dirty your hands by going on the ground.

Agar itne confident ho toh itne insecure kyun ho dear

Forgot to add this. You clearly have no ability to engage in self reflection. If you did, you'd know that your point isn't clear.

Somebody once accused Sudhir of speaking with 'a characteristic sting'. Frankly, if you represent the average quality at NLS these days, you'll need 10 professors + Sudhir to have the balls to speak to you with a 'characteristic sting'. If you are not from NLS and you don't have professors who don't know what's what, I have no solution to save you. Tell me your name and you will be in my prayers every day. I will send you good thoughts every day.

NLUJ '29 is the most nerdy,doomed batch that can cause downfall of mighty NLUJ!!!! Beware.

Literally they're the most noob,nerdy, wannabe cool like literally if you see their intros, you'll find everyone's perfect and all rounder, doing everything right, whatever whatever etc.

Par chalo main toh 1 - 2 saal mein nikal jaunga,28 waale dekh le ab college ko kaise bachana hai.

I’m looking for some guidance to prepare for an interview for an in-house role (for a tech company - MAMAA).

It would be helpful if you could maybe share about your experience, resources you used to prepare, generally share about your preparation process, some guidance on what to expect, how its different from an interview with a law firm/lawyer, any helpful tips, etc.

TIA!

Even Delhi High Court, Supreme Court was scared of giving Aravind Kejriwal proper bail.

Usually High Court disciplines trial judges for giving bail. Because HC feels Trial Court Judges will threaten them. High Court Judges come from nepotistic families. Whereas Trial Judge's are selected on basis of a competitive exam.

A young Judge in Rouse Avenue Court risked her whole life and career to give the bail to Aravind Kejriwal.

Even thou Delhi High Court called her bail order perverse and delegitimised the trial judge.

She will embolden new trial judges to have a backbone.

Article on her

- Special Judge Niyay Bindu has served as a senior civil judge in the Rohini court, Delhi North West district.

- She has served as senior civil judge in Dwarka.

- She is well-versed with both civil and criminal law, according to reports.

In the order granting relief to Kejriwal, which was made available on Friday, the vacation judge held that prima facie, his guilt was yet to be established. “It may be possible that some persons known to the applicant are having involvement in an offence….but the ED has failed to give any direct evidence against the applicant in respect of the proceeds of crime," the judge said.

She also questioned the ED’s silence on Kejriwal’s assertion that he was arrested in the money laundering case related to the alleged excise scam without having been named in the Central Bureau of Investigation’s First Information Report (FIR) or the ECIR registered by the anti-money laundering agency. Enforcement Case Information Report (ECIR) is ED’s version of an FIR.

“This is also noticeable that ED is silent about the facts as to how the proceeds of crime have been utilized in Assembly Elections in Goa by AAP as, admittedly, after about two years, the bigger portion of the alleged amount remains to be traced out," the judge said.

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https://www.news18.com/india/who-is-niyay-bindu-judge-who-gave-bail-to-delhi-cm-arvind-kejriwal-in-liquor-policy-scam-case-8939927.html

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Niyay Bindu will be remembered as a very brave justice who didn't bow against this autocratic regime when judges are being killed on the morning walk🔥You have our respect🫡

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Judge Niyay Bindu observed ED has failed to give any direct evidence linking Kejriwal to proceeds of crime.

https://districts.ecourts.gov.in/ms-niyay-bindu-scjrc-25

https://www.barandbench.com/news/ed-acting-with-bias-against-arvind-kejriwal-delhi-court-bail-order

He's a task master, but a good boss at the end of the day. Team is slightly toxic though.

You'll be doing corp transactions under him. Dispute resolution is so different, I don't know how to answer but I don't think there's any correlation so as to say if it'd be easy/tough to transition that way.

Hi, I’m looking for white collar crime and criminal law LLM from a foreign university, do you have any insights as to which universities provide these, including the prospects in India once I return?

I am doing my own research but I’d like to know what’s the general consensus out there. Thanks!

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None of the Nlus release proper placement stats. When someone files an rti this is the picture that comes up. Nlsiu hasnt released it for so long and when someone asks for it all nls fanboys come down hard defending it. Even iit-b and iima release placement stats every year but nlus cant do so. You cant place everybody but atleast say how many you did. Nlus claim to be premier institutes but literally dont bother with the most important stat.

India International University of Legal Education and Research (IIULER) Goa is a PRIVATE UNIVERSTIY under Section 2(f) of UGC Act, 1956. It is owned by Bar Council of India Trust - PEARL FIRST and not by "Bar Council of India" - BCI Trust - PEARL FIRST is an independent and autonomous body from BCI.

IIULER was constituted India International University of Legal Education and Research of the Bar Council of India Trust at Goa Act, 2021 (Goa Act 16 of 2021) - It is the only PRIVATE UNIVERSITY in the State of Goa.

Refer UGC Website to know IIULER is a PRIVATE University: https://www.ugc.gov.in/universitydetails/university?type=0wBmFB1Rb4JGVzq9UP/iOg==

They are actually deceiving people and students by stating it as a Public University!

Never ever fall in their trap!