Weird, because at NUJS I found NRI candidates looking down on SC candidates who had lower CLAT scores. Then SC candidates looking down on ST candidates who had even lower scores! And merit listers looking down on all others because they had the highest scores, but merit listers from big cities looking down on merit listers from small cities! Then, there was a caste system of schools, with certain elite ICSE schools at the top. Someone from a reserved category could "upgrade" his/her position in the hierarchy if he/she was an alum of such an elite school.

Bottomline: NLUs are hyper competitive, hierarchical places where people try to denigrate others and get jealous of others. You just focus on your studies and shut out everything else. Get a good GPA and join a firm. That's it. Screw everything else.

lol boss you have no idea. It’s not ‘wealth’ per se…so I won’t agree with the OP here. It’s basically the fact that we are buying our way in after spending 50L for a legal education where candidates are spending half the penny. It somehow reeks of ‘privilege’. Wonder how I am figuring all these out? Cause I was in the exact same position few years back.

I am from a tier-1 law college at rajasthan and I absolutely hate the fact that I keep getting ridiculed as a nri candidate out there. Those who survive, survive in a very low-key fashion. If you are NRI - automatically people expect you to top the semester exams (because of your wealth) and when you don’t, you will be sniffed off. There will be ostracisation to the extent that people will change their tone while they talk to the NRI candidate. If you are not incredible famous/classic bootlicker of your batchmates, you will face problems of all sorts. I don’t know if this is the case for nujs or gnlu as well, but I will recommend people to avoid this seat at all costs cause mental peace matters. Rhetorics and insults which may seem ‘small’ to them, can appear meaninglessly harmful to you. You don’t want that. This is an anonymous forum- and I hope I haven’t been trollish as such, I just really wanted to put this heartfelt post out there. If there’s similar candidates like me, do ensure and we can talk about it without being trollish. I will also like the mod to highlight this thread for transparency.

When a female student alleged SH against a retired SC judge who had incidentally fallen foul with CM Kindness, there were howls of protest, written petitions etc from faculty members. Later the complainant decided against pursuing the complaint and is now back in Bangalore after a cushy detour abroad.

No such support etc came through from the bleeding hearts when another female student complained against another serving SC judge (later NGT Chairperson). Likely she lacked a politically connected uncle and stupidly pursued her complaint legally, which went nowhere. Dilatory tactics continued till the SC/NGT judge retired, enjoyed sinecures and life and then passed away. Case closed.

Fractured faculty support also came through when the PA (now Secy) alleged SH by an AR Admin.

So why not now? Why isn't the associate prof coming clean regarding the evidence she has against admin and financial misdeeds of the VC, which triggered repeated SH by him. Why not make all of it available since the EC is VC's echo chamber?

Why blame alumni only? NUJS SJA has tagged many so-called liberals and feminists requesting their help. None responded. See the tweet below. No doubt these people would have sprung into action had this been a BJP-ruled state.

https://x.com/NujsSpeaks/status/1795717384755683671

Yes Ashish Goel is one of the lawyers from NUJS who has unequivocally spoken about this incident. He has called for the resignation of the VC. So you are misinformed. And why do you bother so much about what is happening in NUJS. We are doing pretty well and are able to handle this ourselves with support from alumni and well wishers. Now go back to NLU Delhi library and read some law. Will serve you well.

He is not in the EC. He is a GC member, which is a largely ceremonial body that meets once before every convo and hasn't met for the last 2 years at all. There too, he was absent in the last meeting. And he is there as a state nominee, Chandu can't do anything about that. The Chancellor's nominees themselves to the governing bodies are equally terrible, btw.

OMG Sanjay Basu is in the NUJS EC and Governing Council???!! The same body which once had the biggest legal luminaries in India??? My god!!! 😢😢😢

Even from Kolkata they could have easily taken a law firm owner like Nandini Khaitan of KCO or Debanjan Mandal of Fox Mandal in these bodies, or even an NUJS alum equity partner in Argus. Just disgusting how the college has become an outpost of the TMC!! 😡🤮

Can't the SJA and alumni write to Chandrachud about this dilution of standards???

No wonder all the inquiries directed by the EC in 2018-20 were squelched and Justice PN Sinha Inquiry Report recommendations were never acted upon. SJA was castigated for raising uncomfortable issues. UGC had given Rs 48 lacs for computer lab during the 11th Plan. For years NUJS (under MPS, PIB and Taluk admins) didn't send utilization certificates etc. SAK played a major role in this. Later NKC and Shikha Sen had some utilization certificates sent which claimed that NUJS actually spent a little over Rs 49 lacs.

Citing CAG audit UGC asked NUJS to refund Rs 13.5 lacs for expenses that were never allowed under the budget. NKC had to comply. All this is documented in the records.

But the associate professor is alleging a bigger scam involving UGC funds. Why not produce the evidence instead of sniping from the shadows and misleading gullible students?

TMC is a creation of BJP/RSS gone rogue. Where do you think the funds came from? TMC was funded and nurtured to do the grunt work of evicting the Reds.

When the TMC eventually blips out 2026 or some years later, there will be no credible opposition against the BJP. Same thing will happen in TN after Stalin; Odisha after NavPat; and has already happened in Gujarat (with Congress extinguished and AAP miles away).

Salami slicing at work

That is accurate. Here's the link: https://www.telegraphindia.com/west-bengal/re-examine-sexual-harassment-complaint-lodged-against-vc-calcutta-high-court-directs-west-bengal-national-university-of-juridical-sciences/cid/2022532

This is the only MSM outlet reporting on the NUJS VC scandal. Ironically, this paper isn't even published from Kolkata. I just hope that the Kolkata media are ignoring the story because of elections and not because they are cosy with the TMC regime.

https://www.edexlive.com/breaking/2024/May/30/nujs-vc-accused-sexual-harassment-allegedly-6-month-extension-tenure

Don't get a backpack if you want to do a law firm thing long term. First years can pass with backpacks but as you get senior, you want to have a certain serious image. Get a nice da milano leather bag (the laptop kind which you can hang by your shoulder). Around 15k should get you one easily and it will last some time

India International University of Legal Education and Research (IIULER) Goa is a PRIVATE UNIVERSTIY under Section 2(f) of UGC Act, 1956. It is owned by Bar Council of India Trust - PEARL FIRST and not by "Bar Council of India" - BCI Trust - PEARL FIRST is an independent and autonomous body from BCI.

IIULER was constituted India International University of Legal Education and Research of the Bar Council of India Trust at Goa Act, 2021 (Goa Act 16 of 2021) - It is the only PRIVATE UNIVERSITY in the State of Goa.

Refer UGC Website to know IIULER is a PRIVATE University: https://www.ugc.gov.in/universitydetails/university?type=0wBmFB1Rb4JGVzq9UP/iOg==

They are actually deceiving people and students by stating it as a Public University!

Never ever fall in their trap!

If you graduate before 24, you can apply for direct entry through CDS Examination, however this is for a non-JAG post. You may join JAG once training is completed, if you're able to obtain above 85 marks in military law and if there are any vacancies. This involves written & SSB.

For others, you apply for JAG, which is till the age of 27. However vacancies are less in number. You will be commissioned into JAG branch. This involves only SSB, plus CLAT marks are needed nowadays.

It doesn't matter which university you come from since only an llb degree is required, and clearing SSB & medical is the minimum requirement to be selected for training.

Had you been an NUJS alum, then you would have known better than to suggest that people study law at JU (nobody who has ever stayed in Bengal calls it 'Jadhav'), a place that doesn't have any law department. No LLB alumnus has left any teaching position at NUJS and currently serving as an Assistant Professor elsewhere either. So quit lying, troll!

Pretty much everyone has warned me about the BLEAK situation of Sonipat and how I should rather go for a different law school, but I like challenges so I left tier 2 law schools (and NLIU) because I'd rather stay near the capital (20km from Metro). So I'll keep y'all posted. You can be as Harsh as you want in the comments. 👁️👁️

In the US, there are top-class law firms in at least 15 cities and average to decent law firms in at least 30 to 40 cities. But in India only 3 cities have top-class law firms and only 5 to 6 cities at most have average to decent law firms. Elsewhere, transactional legal work is handled by the same paan-chewing fixers in black coats who work in courts, and who pay their juniors less than what they pay their drivers.

The reason is simple: lop-sided development. Unless backwards states in India develop their economies, things will remain this way. Modi needs to desperately address this in his third term.

I think you are a clat aspirant or law student, let me let you into the reality.

Disputes teams in law firms only draft docs, prepare briefs and do what clerks do in small advocates offices, like literally.

It's the senior advocate who develops strategy, who's advice the client really wants, no matter you are CAM head of practice, Tataji will only want Salve's opinion on everything. The firm just facilitates this exchange and does the manual thing. The client bills the senior in crores and the entire team in half of that for this reason. Why do you think, so many partners are opening litigation chambers? Including stellar partners like Dubey etc. It's for this reason.

Just visit a court once kid, and see who is actually running the course. Not the judge, not the law firm, it's just the advocates.

Hello Everyone,

I am a final-year law student from a private college and have done several decent internships in my area of interest. Now, as my final year has commenced, I feel completely lost. I feel that these 1-1 month internships are worthless and are not helping me land a job.

Can anyone who has tackled a similar situation, or anyone who has some ideas, give me suggestions about what I can do? I am willing to work hard; I just don't know the right way to reach my goal.

Thank You!

Not a mod, but here's my understanding from previous experience:

1. You can post what you like.

2. If there is even the slightest suspicion you may be giving out identifiable information, they will use redacting markers to filter that out, effectively making your efforts useless.

3. As long as you go by those restrictions, nobody can really ask them to take it down. A word of advice: post what you want to as 'guest', just to remain on the side of caution.

I am a final-year student of a tier-1 non-NLU. I want to rant (read: long rant) about the practices our college adopts, and how teachers are leaving left, right and centre and due to pedagogy that involves non-application of mind, standards are going down.
This will serve as a check for juniors and future aspirants of law.

I do not intend to take names (may use initials to establish context) and nothing will be trollish/defamatory. Will I be allowed to post and can the college actually ask you to take it down?

Thanks

Correct. But when were the EC minutes uploaded by the NKC admin. Earlier due to SJA pressure where they famously clashed with and humbled the AG, the then Talukdar admin uploaded EC, AC,FC and GC minutes AND agenda notes. Everything. This was very quickly discontinued by the NKC admin and COVID gave a great excuse along with a servile SJA back then. So what prompted this change?

By the way, NKC and Co are still playing old tricks. EC minutes exist till Dec 2023. AC till somewhere in 2022. FC is stuck somewhere in 2019 and GC in 2018. And that's just the minutes and not the agenda notes.

Will the SJA do something meaningful about this or back off because the Prez has been targeted and the teach are playing mind tricks and scare tactics with Day Zero stuff?

I am reliably told that the VC and Registrar called upon faculty members, including the junior ones who were recently appointed/contracts extended to pledge loyalty and even asked to remain ready to voice/sign their support should EC members ask for it.

If all that is alleged by the complainant is "false" then what explains this panic reaction. Ofc there are faculty members who would volunteer "loyalty" and then do what they did to PIB.

Then again, why no faculty/staff support for the complainant? Not as gullible as the students?

An IIT IIM guy would have the mathematical acumen to do financial analysis, that's why. It is not that they are "better", it's just that their financial skills are better just like a BSc grad would have a better Science knowledge than a NLU guy. I mean it's a no brainer, so OPs question is very stupid to that extent. Similarly no Fortune 50 company would hire a IIT guy for a privacy or compliance role. You hire people basis their qualifications and talents.

But what surprises me is how can they (or some stupid people on this thread) think a Hindu or St Stephens grad is better than a Tier 1 NLU grad. This is just beyond me. Like a BA from Stephens wouldn't be better than a BA LLB from NLS. The sort of studies involved in a 5 year NLS LLB program would easily outshine any BA program. A simple art grad from Stephens wouldn't even have the financial acumen also. It's just old industrial perception that apart from IITs and IIMs if there are any good colleges then it's in DU. Law schools have started shining in only last 20 years or so. I am sure industry perception will also change with time.

Left at 35. Was with the firm for a decade. Lucky enough to have an understanding partner. He told me not to divulge it to anyone else. Took weeks off for SSB & medical. Cleared it, handed in resignation when I had to report for training and later joined local court to show proof of income.

Financially you can easily earn more in a law firm than in the army, as the salary is fixed. However, you get added benefits like medical,canteen, accommodation etc. Plus, I had always been more passionate for the service, so higher income was never my goal.