Hi all,

I’m an IBC lawyer, planning to switch to a general financing practice.

I have two offers: 1) a team which does insolvency restructuring and structured finance; and 2) a full fledged financing team.

Can I request the SAs/PAs/Partners here to guide me in terms of future prospects for both the practice areas? The pros and the cons?

Thank you.

@Moderator request if you could please quickly publish this, as I need to accept one of the two job offers by Monday. Thanks.

I was just a week away from concluding this internship.. but I couldn't bear it anymore. I was simply horrendous at the tasks I were assigned. Associates had to explain same proposition million times only for me to forget them like 2 minutes later. I am hardly able to make sense of what I did in these 3 and a half weeks.

It was only a matter of 5 working days left with a presentation at the last day. My self esteem has taken such a beating that I can't face anyone now. I came back home crying everyday, still doing pending tasks I was too slow to get over with during the day. Today I mailed the HR at 10 pm saying that I want to end the internship with immediate effect due to preponing of semester exams ( a shitty excuse) and had the audacity to ask for certificate 'as only a week was left'. Part of me feels happy that I won't ever have to go there and can finally be left to my own devices. But on the other hand everything feels bleak. I wasted my time, money, resources and along with a slot that could have gone to a deserving candidate. Not to mention burned bridges with all people there due to my inefficiency. It was a coward loser type of move which I felt necessary to protect my left over fragile self worth. I might as well be having a nasty combo of undiagnosed social anxiety and depression since I avoid and hate meeting people. Even generally my sentences are never longer than a few sentences and answers mostly monosyllabic. I don't see myself getting employed anywhere with this attitude or surviving for long in this competitive world. I'm in my mid twenties nearly graduated and jobless. I don't know what to do. Please suggest something anything.. did I make the right choice? How to get out of this rut? Do you guys also have similar stories to share ?

what an ▮▮▮ - ▮▮▮ you can be to believe in such nonsense. Oh, BTW there was no research or paper rather it was an article which is merely an opinion on SAT scores of black.

It has to do with the basic economics, people who invest in pre coaching for IIT's or SAT's tend to get better scores than the ones who did not took any pre coaching because it requires money! Cast and color is not the issue here. -_-

It is exactly the same, Cal HC judgment also cites the APHC judgment (Muralidhar Rao's case): https://www.livelaw.in/pdf_upload/displayphp-541120.pdf

A prodigal son or daughter is a child who leaves home to do things their parents don’t approve of and then regrets and comes home.

Sid was justified in leaving and I think his coming back is more of a heroes arc- but other people could think he was perhaps impractical to leave nls the way he did all those years ago and his coming back now is some recognition of the way in which law school is not really replaceable or easily replicated in other universities.

Jindal officially announced Shailendra Mehta's joining a long time back: https://jgu.edu.in/jgu-appoints-shailendra-raj-mehta-as-university-professor/

But according to the above link, "Professor Mehta is stepping down from administration to focus full-time on research at JGU". So unlikely he is going to take over Raj's position?

Choosing banking finance and expecting mental sanity is like choosing spicy noodles and expecting swiss chocolaty taste.

The nature of practice demands super extra efforts. Life will go for a toss- no doubt. That is at every place where you have good deals.

The team has relatively good culture when you compare it with rosy places like AgedB, Shaitan and Co, SCam, ShAM, TRyEagle. Work hours may be more or less.

PS: This is from a source who has been working there for years.

In banking finance team your LIFE sucks, and MONEY rocks.

But still, there are some rare good teams, where the above will hold true only when there is a neck to neck situations.

1. Aashit Shah or Utsav Johri or Anish Mushroomwala or Tirthankar Dutt at JSA

2. Rohit Raghavan at Saraf

3. Karan Mitroo or Girish at Luthra

4. Ishan Handa or Anand Shah at AZB

5. Mallika Chopra or Pranav or Kanak at Trilegal.

Feel free to add to this list.

Hey, can anybody help me with information about the Aptitude Assessment Test (AAT) at ALG Law Offices for the Legal Trainee position in General IP? Specifically, what is the test about? Is it multiple choice (MCQ)? What topics should be covered? How is the essay writing question typically given? Also, are you monitored through a Zoom meeting during the test?

An NLU grad with work ex with a good firm or top Senior Advocate represents the cream of young legal talent. Add more ingredients, like an LLM from abroad or good speaking/writing skills, and you have someone who would do very well in politics. Yet, very few such people are joining politics. I am surprised to see very mediocre young lawyers being made party spokespersons by the BJP, Congress, AAP, TMC, DMK etc.

Why is it so and is time to change things?

So I had recently appeared for SLAT 2024 and I have even been shortlisted for SLS pune and got PI calls but I don't think I can afford the fees . I am going to appear for MHCET and I do think I might be able to crack GLC/ILS

I need help regarding following points

1)Is SLS pune worth it ( for a education loan)

2) if I am selected by PI and I get GLC/ ILS should I drop SLS P

3) after getting into one of these institutions is it worth it to give another CLAT attempt

That was actually an exception, I know this person well, he got admission in nalsar and his degree is from nalsar, and he was just permitted to attend courses at nujs that would then get transferred back to nalsar. This was done by a special MoU signed between nalsar and nujs, only so that this person could continue his college along with his treatment. Think of it more like an exchange semester (but longer) where you can go to another college and your grades/credits get transferred back, but again I would like to stress that is was only a special accommodation due to his condition and probably will never happen again. Nowadays, nalsar allows people who need constant medical care to attend their courses online.

A GLC Student here

Attendance is not strictly enforced,yet

Faculty at PGCL isn't any great either. Even you can read from bare act since you know how to read english.

Few professors at glc (pithawalla, daswani etc) are senior & exceptionally good at their subjects

Branding helps.

Although glc is not what it used to be, at least for next 10-15 yrs will recommend it over pgcl

just check their placement website glcplacements.com

Oh, when faced with a GC who made a similar complain about their existing inventory registration budget and asked us about the costs, we clearly told them that we could do it at half the cost. But you know the reply we got?... "The promoters wouldn't agree at that low a cost cz 'there's a kickback involved'"
As for Gurgaon courts...don't even get me started. I have seen clients ask lawyers to return their appearance fee because "matter got adjourned", and "aaj to kuchh hua hi nahi fees kis baat ki", when the lawyer (who we happened to know) had spent 2 whole nights preparing their last-minute bail matter and a lot more. So Counsel Venting: Calling out all Shameless clients who want to get work done for free.

trust me, it is always better to go to a govt college in Delhi than a private college like nirma. Delhi University has a great history of producing some of the best lawyers in this country. Their 5-year program may be new, but I am certain they have better faculty. However, more than anything else, the Delhi factor will be the most imp; Delhi is the heart of lawyering and advocacy in India. If you play your cards right, you can easily start your career either at a Tier 1 law firm (not through RCC placements, which I doubt Nirma will give you in any case) or a great senior/chamber if that is the path you intend to follow. DU tuition will be cheaper (but you will have to spend on housing, etc.), and you will have a lot morern, enjoy and overall, a better freedom to inteand more fulfilling college experience. If a nalsar types nlu had not worked out for me, my best bets were and still would be govt colleges either in delhi or bombay.

They will hire till a lot later as well.

It usually depends on openings and vacancies (based on attrition and expansion of work).

For 2024 batch, I’ve seen few PPOs being given as late as last month April.

So, it’s not that SAM won’t hire at all after Day-0 but the possibility is highly randomised depending on the above mentioned factors.

Hi guys.
I've read and understood the fact that firms rarely, if ever, hire year 1 students for internships. However, I came across a senior's comment here on LI, in which he said that he interned for the legal counsels of small/mid-tier MNCs in his first year and went up from there. My interests lean majorly towards corp. so I really don't wish to spend time interning at courts.

I'd be really grateful if some of you could add to the guidance he provided.

Key points:

1. Encourage women into legal education by providing them with incentives.
2. Legal education reforms should align with NEP 2020.
3. Inclusion of emerging subjects (AI, Cybersecurity, Bio-ethics, Robotics)
4. Integration of mediation into the curriculum.
5. Integration of computer education into the curriculum.
6. No recognition for online LLB/LLM/MA(Law/BA (Law) degrees.

https://www.barcouncilofindia.org/info/comprehens-ku2hwr

I have been told that the HR formalities will happen, but the HR is not responding. EP even said that I might need to change my acco as it is too far from office. Everything seemed very positive, but the HR has decided to keep me anxious. There are 2/3 rounds depending on team I'd guess.

Hi! I have just graduated from law school (not so known college) this month. I have secured an internship (not assessment) for next month in Agram Legal Consultants few month ago. Should I join it? How is the firm? Are there vacancies for freshers in this firm?
P.s. - I don't have any other back up option for now but also I come from middle class family and Mumbai is an expensive place to do internship. Please guide me!

Dear fellow lawyers in Mumbai (specifically A0s and A1s),

Hope you're all doing average,

This is in relation to an anonymous house party to be hosted by me. We all need to blow off some steam outside our rigorous careers and endless hours. In this regard, why not get together and rant about law firms at a party instead of LI?

Interested people may bump this thread to set up something fun in the coming weeks.

Regards,

Your friendly neighbourhood PartyPooper.

Why is LiveLaw making it so hard to locate the story on this HC order? Does this prove what a commentator here alleged previously, that LL Calcutta desk actively filters out anything remotely anti-regime.

This they had to report. A lot of the details were circulating in the public domain. Of course the EC worthies are blissfully unaware.

Hi everyone

I'm experiencing crazy levels of imposter syndrome ahead of joining as an associate at a firm I loved interning at. It's making me nervous to the extent that I fear starting the job. Please help- advice, anecdotes, anything really....

After rigorous internships I finally landed a job in a respectable firm that I like - I like the environment, the people, the work etc and to some extent, even the pay. Everything seems great. Except that after college and exams got wrapped up, I've been thinking about what kind of colleague/junior I'd be and I feel inadequate.

I'm well acquainted with the people I will be working with and I fear their judgment. I fear the judgment of my immediate seniors, my to-be bosses and the only thought I have is - "What if they realise they made a mistake?" That's how bad it is.

How do I overcome it? Has anyone else felt this way? Share anything that would help...Thanks !

Basically the title. Is the effort to return ratio low in this industry? If so, is it a systemic issue on account of monopolisation ( in corp law) and nepotism (in lit)? Or it has more to do with the nature of this industry meaning the market itself is too small? Would love to hear some thoughts.

Hello, I am about to start my fourth year from a private college and was hoping to start applying for january 2025 internships through cold emailing partners. Are there any firms where they do not entertain such emails at all? For eg : JSA on their website say they do not encourage applications through any route except the direct one through the HR. In such a situation can I still mail the partner or would there be consequences for the same? Thanks a lot

Having interned with them for a month, only have praise for the culture there. Everyone's really nice and there's a huge emphasis on growth and learning. Only stayed late at the office a couple of times, everyone values work-life balance there a lot. Would definitely recommend, no idea about pay though.

Not a very convincing argument tbh. The vast majority of kids from all these universities end up working in the same 6-7 law firms, the rest end up doing litigation with a select group of seniors. GNLU puts out a lot of Rhodes scholars despite this alleged lack of "known" faculty.

Good faculty is important obviously, but painting it as the only relevant factor in an NLU's standing is disingenuous.