With the random introduction of the. BSc course at NUJS (to no fault of the students in the course; allow me to clarify, my irate post is about the course, not the students, who found an opportunity to get into a good NLU and took it), the VC introduced it as a forensic-legal course for minds interested in that field, now suddenly the Bo28 kids say that the admin/CRC wants a joint rpc, and these kids will also have one common day z and corporate placements? From what I gather, courses are completely different, and GPAs aren't comparable; how are recruiters supposed to distinguish and what about internship opportunities? I would love to hear from recruiters, students and other colleges What do you think?

There are solid professors still there. Vasanthi, Neha Pathakji, Vidyulatha. And some good young people including Nalsar alums. Everything isn't about superstars. This core is important for institutions to survive. Superstars will come and go because they have lots of opportunities.

NLS is no comparison with nalsar or NLU delhi or other NLUs. It’s numero uno and if you get a seat you must join it. NLS faculty is ten times superior than any NLU. Their only competition in jindal or foreign colleges. NLS alumni again have 10 times more influential than any NLU. So no question if you get NLS. You must not miss this opportunity.

Thanks for the above response to my comment and I understand that you feel that NALSAR Faculty is not worth being talked about, which may be true from your own personal experience, so won’t disagree with you.

However, the you’d consider this - and I’ve been taught by Chauhan, Dhanda, Chauhan. Pranav was in Uni while I was in college but that doesn’t mean that other faculty members cannot rise to the challenge. During my time at Uni, a lot of good professors moved, new blood came in and did a decent job. Sudhanshu himself became much better semester-on-semester, he was fairly inexperienced when he started with Company law in third year for me when I was at Uni but my final semesters, I used to love attending his classes.

I cannot comment on academic culture, I don’t know what that means. NALSAR was just a great place to be - in that, I liked not having to worry so much about my academics on a daily basis but had to study when I needed to. I was free to do what I want on most days. Instructions were very clear about the academic system.

But I will say - making a blanket statement like there is no reputation is a bit of a stretch. Even in my work life, a lot of doors and connections open by saying that I am a NALSAR alumni. You can’t wash away these institutional things in a period of a few years.

You are right - perhaps if I was in OP’s shoes - I’d naturally gravitate towards NLS. But I didn’t get into NLS - I have a lot of friends from NLS so I’d hear both good and bad things. However, that doesn’t suddenly make NALSAR a bad place to go to, nor does it drop NALSAR out of the consideration of NLS v NALSAR. There were quite a few people in my batch who made the decision to come to NALSAR over NLS.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/odisha/2024/Dec/16/nfsu-campus-cfsl-to-boost-odisha-polices-crime-investigation-capabilities

In addition to the large central government (MHA) funding, NFSU also benefits from the state governments through land and other financial resources. State governments are scrambling to have an NFSU campus in their respective states. In contrast, state governments are indifferent towards or ignoring their NLUs.

Lots of patriarchal and misogynistic comments by toxic, right-wing guys here. Disgusting. Yes, maybe there are a few girls who misuse laws but please don’t forget the bigger picture about violence against women being an entrenched problem in India. This is the land where sati used to be practised. Under the BJP’s rule things have got worse.

It is the same situation all around. Yes, this will be in the media for a few days and then it will be gone under the rug on the pretext of the next big breaking news. Men will still remember it but will chose to ignore it by diverting their minds and for the fear of being called as conservative or patriarchal though they may still feel that whatever is happening is wrong. And No this is not a gender war, what people have been failing to understand is that they get support or not get a support from the institutions only on the basis of the influence and consequences it may arouse. Before anyone says anything I may myself clarify, I am a man and I am not trying to under supplement the issue here, but just yesterday even though the countrywide we saw huge protests to erupt, the key suspects have been given bail in RG Kar Medical College rape case on the basis of CBI failing to file a chargesheet in time. What we are failing to understand is that it, although it may seem, is not Man v Woman, not Upper Caste v Lower Caste, not Rich v Poor but it's about Greedy (for power, money, control, etc.) v those who are eventually paying the cost to fulfill these greedy. Ain't a moral police nor a philosopher here but this is certainly what seems true in the absolute sense which no other aspect as mentioned above is.

I am in my 4th year in a T2 NLU. I have done tier 1 internships and others and in corp and disputes yada yada. I do not seem to like it. I don't think I can sit in an office for 10 hours or more and then give my whole life to it. I am definitely not passionate about law. The thought of doing this for the rest of my life scares the shit out of me. But then, I ask myself, then what do I do?

This is a question for anyone who is or was in the same situation. Is it worth going into law knowing you don't like it for the sake of having an apartment to come home for to sleep 5 hours and never having time for yourself or should one explore and see your peers do better (at least on the outside)?

No, noone cares about your "disposition" unless you thrust is down people's throats. Its a top target law school in India, study well, get that top ranking and get a well paying job. Do moots, ADR, make good friends, have sex and party, drink, smoke, do drugs, everything is available.

Karuna Nundy replaces her. So both the parents and junior docs are rotating lawyers who represent the left rather than the right: Indira Jaising, Bikash Bhattacharya, Vrinda Grover, Karuna Nundy etc. But there are some third-parties who have intervened and engaged Phiroze Edulji and Mahesh Jethmalani, while Tushar Mehta is representing the CBI.

Yet despite this battery of lawyers no chargesheet has been filed by the CBI against two of the main suspects and they just got bail.

https://theprint.in/india/as-2nd-lawyer-fighting-rg-kar-case-quits-differences-between-doctors-family-legal-team-surface/2402486/

https://www.edexlive.com/amp/story/news/2024/Dec/13/rg-kar-rape-murder-senior-advocate-karuna-nundy-to-represent-victims-parents-in-sc-trial-court

Hi, I’m sharing my personal experience here, if by chance it helps you.

Forget graduating, I would sometimes forget things after the semester finished. I’ve no idea how I got through most of my university life with good scores because I have no recollection of contract law, constitution, criminal law or anything I studied bar Company Law - which I was slightly better at recalling than other subjects.

This isn’t something to gloat about because it quickly caught me off guard in my first year of work. In all honesty, a mixture of COVID, heavy transactional work, busy seniors - really did not help me when I was an A0. In fact, if I met myself back in 2020 as a first year lawyer, I would say that I should have been sacked for how bad I was. In my first year, my biggest priority was that I focus on the small aspects of a transaction I was given and not think about anything else - which is not right.

But I recovered but lot more to go. As an answer below tells you, specialising is key. This may seem like a vague statement but it actually made a huge difference for me. I had applied for an LLM after my first year at the job and I got a good US school, and when I was doing the online “meet and greet” with other potential batchmates, it scared me just how senior and just how much the others knew so I deferred my admission to get back to basics.

The first thing I did was find out something I really liked and then find the corporate angle to it. Football and IPL was a natural fit for me so I found genuine interest in studying about what an “LBO” is and why it is not allowed in India (how Manchester United were bought). Progressively that moved onto other sectors I liked like Media, FnB and then FinTech. The idea was to truly find my work immersive by understanding who the buyer and who the Target was. Books and YouTube were most helpful. I would google a lot of words while watching Shark Tank US, which I did not understand.

This helped me a lot when it came to doing DD - as it told me the full story of a company across various aspects.

Then it was about bothering seniors, and a lot of YouTube. Nobody explains to us in University why Indian SPAs have “Warranty and Representations” treated exactly the same - when in fact, they are separate concepts. Nobody ever tells you why a breach of warranty should be backed indemnity and not damages. The idea of “specific performance” does not suddenly appear in your head. Equally, nobody had ever taught me the boiler plate clauses in detail. Nobody teaches you why de-minimis and basket are 0.1 and 1 and why these change for auctions. Nobody teaches you where the concept of specific indemnity came from. So I went and studied these in detail - not from books, but from my firm’s material and YouTube.

After that, it was entirely about ensuring that I find a way to get on calls with my seniors - who after a while, relented and did allow me to sit on negotiations with my mouth shut and to take notes. This was life changing and now that I’m fairly mid level, I enjoy looking at all possible positions and their rationale - without saying “this is not market”. This was 2023.

In 2024, I was seriously caught out on some very niche aspects of shares on a slightly complicated transaction which neither my partner nor I had ever seen - my partner found a solution and I did not, which truly got me interested in instruments. So a lot of my time this year has been learning about shares and all sorts of instruments. I wish I had done these in detail before.

My current goal is to learn more of the math for example, closing accounts where a transaction is cash-free, debt free. Conversion of shares, anti-dilution, vesting of shares - as I’m progressively doing some VC work.

Even after all of this, I will often get stumped on some really basic thing that I should know, but I don’t. This disheartens me at times, but I accept that my skill is that I have energy to learn on my own time.

Obviously none of this is possible without great seniors and mentors - I have generally had exceptionally patient seniors who had a lot of time for my horrible mistakes. Of course, this is just product and law - I’m slowly starting to realise just how much more there is to corporate profession in terms of soft skills and downward/ upward managing.

My suggestion is to (somehow) try and find an enjoyment in the core work that you do. In all honesty, that’s what has kept me going without feeling like I’m burning out.

Yes, very true. Any CV which doesn't belong to someone from one of those universities whose ego is like a balloon so filled with air that one small prick with a pin will blow it up in somebody's face. Clearly, such a one doesn't realise when people are just having fun, which shows the quality of those universities.

I know the answer of this can be very generic like do internship and all. But I really want to know what specific skills do people in tier 1 firms need in disputes and Is it possible to get PPO in dispute? Plzz share some tips.

I'm a 3rd year law student and really want to go into litigation and can't afford to chamber practice because of financial reasons. I'm thinking to intern part time but because of that my grades will be affected. Do these tier 1 firms focus on gpa before hiring as my gpa is already below average and I don't want to close door for corporate also.

I got married at 27 and I had wondered if it was too soon. It wasn't. Do not compare your situation with your peers. Lawyers are well known to compromise on life and home for their careers. If you guys are comfortable with each other, and have an idea how it is to spend life together, go for it.

Also, you would be surprised that men are lucky that they do not have to face the bias for being married. Women have to face that too often and it is unfair.

I know you won’t want to hear this but as a man in a good job, think very carefully before marrying (whether now or in the future). You might be in love and might think your girlfriend loves you (which may even be true at this time) but the chances of a marriage breaking down are now in excess of 50%, at which point it is also highly unlikely that your former wife continues to treat you reasonably when it comes to the division of assets and custody of any children you may have.

The divorce laws, and more importantly their current implementation, are loaded against men in good jobs. You are entering into a contract with a greater than 50% chance of termination, that contains a termination clause that will strip you of staggering amounts of earned and inherited wealth, and a method of termination that will likely result in the imposition of false criminal cases against you, your parents and male siblings. Lastly, there is no method that is fully within your control to mitigate this risk. As a lawyer, ask yourself whether you would advise your client to sign that contract.

Some might argue that no misfortune will befall your marriage if you are a good, loving human being. Sadly, this is far from the truth. The people we chance upon in our lives and the courts to which they drag us very often have little regard for our inherent decency and kindness. I speak from experience, my own and that of many of my peers, most for whom divorce came after 10/15/20 + years of marriage.

Chances are you won’t heed this, which is natural, since we tend to learn from our own experiences, not from those of others, however salutary. Besides, I am but an anonymous voice in the ether.

In ending, I do hope you have no adverse experiences in your prospective marriage, but don’t jump in with all four paws too quickly. Safety first, and always. All the best.

Don't think so much. If you've been with the person for 6 years - she already understands your work timings and pressure. You shouldn't let work impact these decisions. You'll find your ways to ensure she gets her due.

If you're unsure - kal ho na ho's title song needs to be heard again. And carefully.

Cheers

Have started off at a Tier 1 Gen Corp. Hate the work. Hate the hours. Hate being in the office. Feels like this has nothing to do with my 5 beautiful years in law school. This is not what I want to do in life and would want to move into litigation or a clerkship and prep for an LLM. Is this too soon to quit - 6 months.

1. I study at a left wing uni in England - and when I say "left wing", I mean like really, really "left wing" - the sort where the students (and even some faculty!) appeal for the UK national anthem to not be sung in graduations because it is colonialist and a major fuck you to brown and black people apparently (if you are that sensitive about colonial past, why the hell are you even living in Britain now?). But even they use 👍👎 😂😅🤣🤮. In no immediate friend or acquaintance circle I have belonged to have I seen people using 🤡 or the last one. Personally, I wouldn't use 🤡 because of the number of unpleasant people I have seen (on Twitter/X in particular) using it to spread very unpleasant messages.

2. Can you please tell me more about what you said regarding some of the emojis in question being ableist? Cliched I know, but explain that to me like I am a five year old, because I seriously don't understand and am not asking in bad faith (full disclosure: I have lived experience of a visible disability, so am actually curious about this!).

3. Have you been fired (or do you know someone who has been fired) from a U.S. job because of using the last emoji in a GC? If not, what evidence do you have of the statement that using that can get you fired?

Hi, just want to ask if I got selected as a civil judge and after doing judgeship for 4-5 years and then I decide to resign and start to do advocacy. Will it be allowed at all? Because in case of higher judiciary like high court and supreme court judges this is not the case. I want to ask about district judges and that too of delhi and rajasthan specifically.