I think right now NLS would be much better to choose-the faculty at NLUD is really declining, with many of their best profs going to NLS and even their arguably best prof (Anup) and P39A going to NALSAR. Comparatively, NLS has been getting excellent faculty, even getting some stellar profs (kamala sankaran, Siddharth chouhan) in the last 2-3 years). Placement scene at NLS is also ofc better, whereas for research i would say NLUD is still better. with new policies, the first year has also become easier (the bo29 did excellently), so they don't bombard you with rigour anymore, rather allow you to ease into it. I would say the debate right now is clearly in favour of NLS and would highly recommend you choose that right now

Let me tell you the harsh truth of life. I am from a T2 NLU. I have seen CLAT aspirants give their blood and swear for this exam, which is a gamble because you could never predict how the next year's paper would be. It's the only exam, wherein, you have to pray that your answer matches with that of consortium.

Now coming to the college life part. Every NLU (from top to bottom) is marred with its own internal problems, which may not sound detrimental to you in your initial first year, but as you progress, you will understand that they are detrimental to your career and overall well-being. VCs creating their own draconian policies, faculties favoritism, unreasonable hostel and college policies, student cultural shock, and insufficient academic guidance. Lots of permutations and combinations, you name it, you would find them in any NLU. But one thing you get from an NLU - the top 10 ones: the scope of building connections, having a good and strong alumni-based network, creamy layer crowd. That's it.

Now coming to the internship part, let me break it to you - If you are thinking of building your career around corporate law firms [since most of the first years are enticed by the fancy corporate law firm lifestyle and the big money; irrespective of having an interest to pursue one or not], then college matters the least, IF and ONLY IF you have CONNECTIONS. Let me put emphasis on it, connections can give you the best internships and even placement. NLU tag is the least of your worries.
If litigation is what you want to pursue or judiciary or civil service, then I don't think an NLU would give you any boost whatsoever.

In the end, make your decision at your convenience, life is too different for every person out there. Things that did not work for me, may work wonders for you, or even partially for someone else. So, keep your options wide and flexible and make a reasoned and well-thought decision. You are the best judge of your own life and no one else.
And enjoy your life a bit.

Cheers!
Have a good day!

Sudhir should acquire the entire stretch between Gnanabharti Main Road and Outer Ring Road on the left bank of the mighty Vrishabhavathi River. He could then establish the National University of Law & Social Science (NULSS), where students can study everything from anthropology to home science, and psychology.

I don't understand why people are criticising this. NLS has always had a heavy social science leaning. Anyone who has studied at NLS knows this. NLS has produced many good historians, sociologists, and anthropologists. We have some amazing social science faculty as well. You cannot retain such good faculty if they only get to teach history/sociology to uninterested law students. So it makes sense to have a new programme to utilise their talents. And I am sure the social science curriculum in India will benefit from NLS' academic rigour.

None of this takes away from the existing law courses. If anything, the few students interested in social sciences will benefit. And the student community in general will benefit from exposure to people studying diverse disciplines. A welcome break to most of us who are tired of law school. Although I agree with those criticising the programme for high tuition fees.

Removing Gaddafi and Saddam turned out to be a disaster for Libya and Iraq respectively. Most likely Syria is going to end up the same way with Assad's departure. In a region as brutal, unstable and volatile as the Middle East, you need a strongman to maintain law and order. Today Turkiye is enjoying the show and cheering on the "rebels", as Western media call them. The same Turkiye will regret their actions when the snake bites them in their backyard soon. Another wave of immigration to Europe, further rise of the far right all over Europe. A never ending cycle.

PS: To those who claim Assad is not secular, majority of the Syrian Arab Army was made up of Sunnis, and not Alawites. Many Sunnis lived peacefully in cities like Damascus, Aleppo, Homs and Hama. Now not just the secular Sunnis, but the Alawites, Christians and Kurds are in danger, with the latter three likely to face an existential crisis.

In fact, he was a multi-millionaire and very privileged. He apparently took psychedelic drugs and this made him crazy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14175717/Alleged-assassin-Luigi-Mangione-psychedelic-treatment-surgery-UnitedHealthcare-CEO-Brian-Thompson.html

The left-wing radicalisation of Gen Z is extremely worrying. We have our own naxalites in Indian colleges. While JNU has been a perennial problem, I read a story where a bright IIT Kharagpur student dropped out and joined the naxals after being brainwashed and even killed some people in terror ops 😔

There are two distinct issues here: merit and bullying.

Re the former, is important to have a superior command of English if you wish to be part of a law review. Just as it’s important to have fitness and stamina if you wish to play for the Indian cricket team. So no sympathy there. I support the decision of NLIU. Tough luck.

Re the latter, bullying and mean comments are not cool. Students who do this are wrong.

I have stucked between confusion what to choose in between this colleges ...i am clear about nluo over hnlu and rgnul.

But i can nliu in mp general domicile.I am confused between nliu and nluo becuase nluo us growing tremendously wheress nliu growth is stagnant and it is detoriating year by year. Can anyone tell me the choice..

One more question to these im currently in dnlu first year .Im 19 and by the time i enter nluo or nliu i will be 20 and .graduating in 25. Does age matters or it's upto you

I have seen in my batch many are 20 and 21 in tier 3 college .

They listen to a lot of Western music and a lot of rock music for some reason. They are not into desi music and at best listen to a few very old songs. The preference for Western music is perhaps because early generations of NLU partners come from elite backgrounds?

Just found this a bit weird. Punjabi pop is the hottest trending genre but they are mostly oblivious about it. And even among Western music the whole world listens to Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran and Bad Bunny but they are just meh about it. Though they do listen to Coldplay, especially the Gen Y partners.

Just my observations….

Hey seniors,

I gave clat this year and got an AIR in 1900s they fucked up my results 4.5 less than what it was supposed to be as per the final key. I did fill up for SLAT and looking forward to give LNAT as well. though i have a few questions, please don't mind them if they're a bit vague i am really anxious.

1. JGLS on scholarship vs sls pune, fees isn't a problem for me no requirement for loans if the fees is below 8lpa but idk if it'll be a good investment or not.

jindal would be considerably cheaper with a 50% or 75% scholarship.

2. will it be a good decision to study for mhcet abd try for glc? not from maharashtra though.

3. what about a tier 3 nlus are they any good, idts personally and money isn't really an issue but still should i go with this instead of the above mentioned.

please guide me and provide any suggestions.

I can take a drop as i am only in 12th but honestly clat sucks, i am quite decent when it comes to english and critical reasoning so can do good in lnat but i hate the vague questions clat gives they suck man.

Why is there never a discussion on the astronomical amount of fees that have to be shelled out for NLU education? While there are commendable non-profit ventures and a few means-based scholarships, charity cannot make up ground for an education system that is elitist to the core. Let's not even get to how rich kids from a handful of metro cities already have an edge because of the expensive coaching that they can afford to pursue before CLAT. Is it because of the structural design of NLUs and the lack of state government funding?

I'm not disabled, but I am also at a foreign university that has excellent name recognition. The library is open till 1 am, sometimes 3 am—exam week; you could technically sit there. But the staff only stays until 5 PM if that. And more severely limited hours during breaks. Only study groups would use the library with regularity; the rest of us study in our rooms or elsewhere on campus; its quieter in the rooms anyway. I only go to the library to photocopy or scan readings for classes. The fact is they would likely not have the library open even past working hours if they didn't have money to hire someone to guard and watch, and students weren't very respectful and professional. It would be unheard of for anyone here to damage a book and not take responsibility for it. And sections of the library have quiet rules anyway, so you cannot socialise there; just study in silence.

NLS' policy doesn't seem too strict to me. A midnight curfew is perfectly reasonable. You also want your students to work efficiently during daylight hours and not work through the night every night.

Don't often visit Legally India but have been looking at the petty fighting and the comments on this thread with some amusement. Let me give you my perspective - I have no skin in the game.

1. I am a blind person. I study law in a western country at a university generally considered among the desirable destinations for anyone wishing to study law, whether at undergraduate or postgraduate level. Not perhaps Harvard or Oxford type "desirable", but say the next level after that.

2. My institutional library, which, obviously, as a law student, I use a lot, operates on a 24/7 basis. It has pretty good infra, all the usual database subscriptions etc. Sounds pretty sweet? Just one caveat: all the staff with the actual expert knowledge on how to operate the technical systems, be it photocopying devices, scanners or printers, or librarians who can actually help you if you aren't doing a very good job of going about finding readings you need to be finding/those are hard to find or help you resolve small technicalities with databases, leave by 8pm on week days and come in on very reduced hours on weekends, leaving the helpdesks manned by security guards who have hash technical knowledge.

3. As a blind person, I tend to prefer using a quiet space in our library, so I use our Assistive Technology Room (or ATR as we sometimes call it), a quite room with limited ID card access which only disabled students are allowed into, so that I can use screen-reader-enabled computer without headphones.

4. I think the library's very flexible timings are useful for people that may not have very positive learning environments in other places (many private accommodation halls are pretty bad in terms of noise, for example, and my uni doesn't allow people to stay in institutional halls beyond a point).

5. I, personally, have never used the library beyond 8pm. Just see no need. My disability means I am exempted from being disallowed halls. Personally, I have found halls to be as conducive to studying/revising/essay writing/planning or whatever as the library (though I must admit that most accommodation buildings here have single rooms, unlike the situation at NLS, per my understanding), except when there is construction or maintenance work going on there (thankfully not too often). I have always thought that if there are things I need/want to do in person in the library which I may need help with (e.g., sometimes I have to print, scan and edit PDFs of some journal articles which come as firewall protected, which make my screen reader go heywire), better to do it when someone who can actually help is around. As for my sighted friends, I have a good number of these and know enough people in my cohort to think it's a representative sample size, nobody that I know sits around in the library for that long either. In fact, on days when there are fewer classes, I know folks who don't bother with the library at all, and use either their accommodation or home spaces to study. The thing is, with a strong collection of EBooks held within an internal library repository, journal and database subscriptions, you actually end up "using the library" wherever it is that you are studying, and doing what people do in libraries (reading, thinking and writing) wherever you are. If I couldn't find something I was looking for and had made sure to leave no stone unturned to find it, I'd just use email to ask for help, not go in person unless I actually was in the library already.

While I don't know the nuts and bolts of the NLS situation, I do think this conversation has been lacking some nuance. Hope this perspective helps some.

LLMs in NLUs are solely for PSU recruitment, YP positions in government departments or the long grind in academia. They are not designed for engaging in co-curricular activities like moot courts. Placements are too few and far between, even in the top NLUs. It is time that LLM aspirants get the complete picture instead of having pipe dreams. And most importantly, LLMs after CLAT PG are not a surrogate for quality undergrad education at one of the better NLUs, much like a random foreign LLM without scholarship that one may pursue with the help of generational wealth.

Things to look forward to:

- Big Green Campus, 55 Acres in fact (There is a reason why we also call it National Lawn University)

- Single Rooms from First Year, also first years will get new renovated washrooms and pantry which look very fancy. (You can also install ACs)

- Good Party Culture (Just ask any senior about the Haveli/SDL/Kokum stories)

- Good Sports Culture (One of the best sports contingent across all the law school circle)

- Very Good Library, the infra is getting updated and upgraded at a very fast pace thanks to the new VC.

- Very good ADR, Mooting and Debate Culture.

- Epic Fests: NH-65 and Yuvardha are really good

Supposed Cons:

- Summers are really brutal, but fortunately you can install ACs in your rooms.

- BA Faculty (OP, Asha the less said the better)

- Food: Good enough if you are a vegetarian, but non-veg variety and taste is seriously lacking in the Jodhpur and Rajasthani Cuisine.

- Toxic: People love to back-bit*h and love spreading rumors, toxic competition, groupism. (This problem is in almost every T1 Law School)

- For some T1 city folks Jodhpur as city might not be too exciting as it is slow-paced and conservative.

- Public Transport: Auto Mafia and local city buses all the way, poor transport situation after 10 PM.

Hi op here, LLM is an essential requirement for entering academia and I am not in a position to spend money on a foreign LLM. Its not about the ideal situation it's about what is the best option available. If anyone knows which university other than these would be good, please tell.