We want LI to be one of the friendliest places on the internet, where lawyers and law students help each other with their career related queries and occasionally discuss other stuff that might affect their lives too. In other words:
1. Be kind, respectful and helpful to each other.
2. Be bona fide, truthful, genuine and curious.
3. Assume the best intention of others.
Therefore, in using the site, you must agree to do your best to uphold these community guidelines.
Note that what you find here is written and moderated by anonymous people on the internet.
Therefore everything you read here is very likely unverified, rumour, speculation and/or downright false.
In continuing to read anything here, you must therefore agree not to take anything you read here as factual and that you will exercise due caution, diligence and common sense before acting on any information you may come across here.
You also agree to report any inaccurate or malicious comments with the buttons. Moderators take action within 24 hours, as required and appropriate under law.
Our full terms and conditions apply too.
Do you solemnly agree to all of the above?
However, the you’d consider this - and I’ve been taught by Chauhan, Dhanda, Chauhan. Pranav was in Uni while I was in college but that doesn’t mean that other faculty members cannot rise to the challenge. During my time at Uni, a lot of good professors moved, new blood came in and did a decent job. Sudhanshu himself became much better semester-on-semester, he was fairly inexperienced when he started with Company law in third year for me when I was at Uni but my final semesters, I used to love attending his classes.
I cannot comment on academic culture, I don’t know what that means. NALSAR was just a great place to be - in that, I liked not having to worry so much about my academics on a daily basis but had to study when I needed to. I was free to do what I want on most days. Instructions were very clear about the academic system.
But I will say - making a blanket statement like there is no reputation is a bit of a stretch. Even in my work life, a lot of doors and connections open by saying that I am a NALSAR alumni. You can’t wash away these institutional things in a period of a few years.
You are right - perhaps if I was in OP’s shoes - I’d naturally gravitate towards NLS. But I didn’t get into NLS - I have a lot of friends from NLS so I’d hear both good and bad things. However, that doesn’t suddenly make NALSAR a bad place to go to, nor does it drop NALSAR out of the consideration of NLS v NALSAR. There were quite a few people in my batch who made the decision to come to NALSAR over NLS.
My maturity is only selective and I’m trying to work on it, many of my peers would say what they say about Marcus Rashford, “He’s 28 but sometimes still behaves like an 18 year old”. I love Marcus Rashford.
Did you switch?
This is a question for anyone who is or was in the same situation. Is it worth going into law knowing you don't like it for the sake of having an apartment to come home for to sleep 5 hours and never having time for yourself or should one explore and see your peers do better (at least on the outside)?
HNLU has better placements and consistency.
Get yourself a campus first and then talk. MNLU is a tier 3 college, better compare it with MNLU-A and MNLU-N. Leave HNLU/ NLUO out of your wannabe fantasies
Yet despite this battery of lawyers no chargesheet has been filed by the CBI against two of the main suspects and they just got bail.
https://theprint.in/india/as-2nd-lawyer-fighting-rg-kar-case-quits-differences-between-doctors-family-legal-team-surface/2402486/
https://www.edexlive.com/amp/story/news/2024/Dec/13/rg-kar-rape-murder-senior-advocate-karuna-nundy-to-represent-victims-parents-in-sc-trial-court
Thank you!
Forget graduating, I would sometimes forget things after the semester finished. I’ve no idea how I got through most of my university life with good scores because I have no recollection of contract law, constitution, criminal law or anything I studied bar Company Law - which I was slightly better at recalling than other subjects.
This isn’t something to gloat about because it quickly caught me off guard in my first year of work. In all honesty, a mixture of COVID, heavy transactional work, busy seniors - really did not help me when I was an A0. In fact, if I met myself back in 2020 as a first year lawyer, I would say that I should have been sacked for how bad I was. In my first year, my biggest priority was that I focus on the small aspects of a transaction I was given and not think about anything else - which is not right.
But I recovered but lot more to go. As an answer below tells you, specialising is key. This may seem like a vague statement but it actually made a huge difference for me. I had applied for an LLM after my first year at the job and I got a good US school, and when I was doing the online “meet and greet” with other potential batchmates, it scared me just how senior and just how much the others knew so I deferred my admission to get back to basics.
The first thing I did was find out something I really liked and then find the corporate angle to it. Football and IPL was a natural fit for me so I found genuine interest in studying about what an “LBO” is and why it is not allowed in India (how Manchester United were bought). Progressively that moved onto other sectors I liked like Media, FnB and then FinTech. The idea was to truly find my work immersive by understanding who the buyer and who the Target was. Books and YouTube were most helpful. I would google a lot of words while watching Shark Tank US, which I did not understand.
This helped me a lot when it came to doing DD - as it told me the full story of a company across various aspects.
Then it was about bothering seniors, and a lot of YouTube. Nobody explains to us in University why Indian SPAs have “Warranty and Representations” treated exactly the same - when in fact, they are separate concepts. Nobody ever tells you why a breach of warranty should be backed indemnity and not damages. The idea of “specific performance” does not suddenly appear in your head. Equally, nobody had ever taught me the boiler plate clauses in detail. Nobody teaches you why de-minimis and basket are 0.1 and 1 and why these change for auctions. Nobody teaches you where the concept of specific indemnity came from. So I went and studied these in detail - not from books, but from my firm’s material and YouTube.
After that, it was entirely about ensuring that I find a way to get on calls with my seniors - who after a while, relented and did allow me to sit on negotiations with my mouth shut and to take notes. This was life changing and now that I’m fairly mid level, I enjoy looking at all possible positions and their rationale - without saying “this is not market”. This was 2023.
In 2024, I was seriously caught out on some very niche aspects of shares on a slightly complicated transaction which neither my partner nor I had ever seen - my partner found a solution and I did not, which truly got me interested in instruments. So a lot of my time this year has been learning about shares and all sorts of instruments. I wish I had done these in detail before.
My current goal is to learn more of the math for example, closing accounts where a transaction is cash-free, debt free. Conversion of shares, anti-dilution, vesting of shares - as I’m progressively doing some VC work.
Even after all of this, I will often get stumped on some really basic thing that I should know, but I don’t. This disheartens me at times, but I accept that my skill is that I have energy to learn on my own time.
Obviously none of this is possible without great seniors and mentors - I have generally had exceptionally patient seniors who had a lot of time for my horrible mistakes. Of course, this is just product and law - I’m slowly starting to realise just how much more there is to corporate profession in terms of soft skills and downward/ upward managing.
My suggestion is to (somehow) try and find an enjoyment in the core work that you do. In all honesty, that’s what has kept me going without feeling like I’m burning out.
I'm a 3rd year law student and really want to go into litigation and can't afford to chamber practice because of financial reasons. I'm thinking to intern part time but because of that my grades will be affected. Do these tier 1 firms focus on gpa before hiring as my gpa is already below average and I don't want to close door for corporate also.
Also, you would be surprised that men are lucky that they do not have to face the bias for being married. Women have to face that too often and it is unfair.
The divorce laws, and more importantly their current implementation, are loaded against men in good jobs. You are entering into a contract with a greater than 50% chance of termination, that contains a termination clause that will strip you of staggering amounts of earned and inherited wealth, and a method of termination that will likely result in the imposition of false criminal cases against you, your parents and male siblings. Lastly, there is no method that is fully within your control to mitigate this risk. As a lawyer, ask yourself whether you would advise your client to sign that contract.
Some might argue that no misfortune will befall your marriage if you are a good, loving human being. Sadly, this is far from the truth. The people we chance upon in our lives and the courts to which they drag us very often have little regard for our inherent decency and kindness. I speak from experience, my own and that of many of my peers, most for whom divorce came after 10/15/20 + years of marriage.
Chances are you won’t heed this, which is natural, since we tend to learn from our own experiences, not from those of others, however salutary. Besides, I am but an anonymous voice in the ether.
In ending, I do hope you have no adverse experiences in your prospective marriage, but don’t jump in with all four paws too quickly. Safety first, and always. All the best.
If you're unsure - kal ho na ho's title song needs to be heard again. And carefully.
Cheers
Also not hectic anymore as CAs are reduced + Saturdays are now off (some students requested the new Vc to change it and she did)
How is the work culture?
Which teams get good work?
Best teams to get PPO?
You will not get appropriate advice here. Move to Delhi. Find a top-tier family lawyer. Consult with him/her.
It's very difficult but you would have a chance!
I disagree
communal tension , Banerjee's govt. etc
I don't think so
gujarat is peaceful and a dry state for that matter
2. Can you please tell me more about what you said regarding some of the emojis in question being ableist? Cliched I know, but explain that to me like I am a five year old, because I seriously don't understand and am not asking in bad faith (full disclosure: I have lived experience of a visible disability, so am actually curious about this!).
3. Have you been fired (or do you know someone who has been fired) from a U.S. job because of using the last emoji in a GC? If not, what evidence do you have of the statement that using that can get you fired?
1. not sure if the placements are same, i'd say NLS has better placements, NLUD is better for litigation and judiciary/upsc. Your location also matters, if you know the local language kannada/hindi, then it'll be easier to work in lower courts of that area, extremely helpful. 2. NLS trimester is negative in my opinion, NLUD is better in this regard. You have less academic pressure, giving you more time and freedom to do other stuff, and if you want more academic rigour, then you can go the library and study. You have in NLUD whereas in NLS you just have to.
3. Location is not that big of an advantage, and yes you can put air purifiers in your room, but i'd suggest you don't, put those lungs to work.
4. I'm not sure what exactly do we mean by this, nor do i have the requisite knowledge to answer this.
5. Again, same :) . You could make an argument for NLS here, bigger batch size, more people, statistics.
6. NLS has better faculty, but they have a batch of 300 odd people, so 5 sections. At best 2 section will get those "better " teachers. In this regard, i'd say both these colleges are similar, not a relevant factor.
7. Due to there being multiple sections in a class, 1 professor does not teach the whole batch (in most cases) so this also makes no difference.
8. Yes, hostels will be an issue. Even if you're from outside NCR, there's a chance you still might not get the hostel.
9. NLS is FAAAAARRR better in infra, NLUD doesn't even come close, be it hostels, library or sports. NLS better.
If even they are not considering, that too after having a reference, I'm not sure how I can pull of a tier 1 with 0 references!
lots of acronyms, but some leads for you (all blogs, some have journals under the same board too).