Your experience would be discounted as you were not working in a B&F team in your previous T1, M&A team and B&F are different and not the same. Most probably, you will become an A0, but why on earth do you want to switch from M&A to B&F when the entire world does the opposite?

Does PGCL have a three year course? Or are your referring to JCCL, by any chance? Any which way, in lines with your question, stating PGCL in the response.

Obviously, GLC for brand name.If that doesn't work out for some reason, New Law> KC> PGCL> Advani

Only ranking PGCL above Advani coz the former's considered a decent* MU College for 5 year course

* as decent as you can be under MU's control.

Do check attendance policy, though. SVKM managed colleges are known to have a tough attendance requirement.

Of course. Lawyers have actually conceded this area because lawyers have zero ability to grasp anything to do with numbers or with a heavy structuring which needs creativity but are happy to do all the copy paste SPAs or do DDs. Btw, Mr. Datar has gone way beyond Tax, though he started with tax. Similarly, Mr. Salve.

What do you mean tax isn't pure law?

And who are these 'We lawyers' who don't consider tax as legal practice in true sense? Speak for yourself. Your generosity in sharing your dumb mindedness is commendable, but unwelcome.

A good amount of noted lawyers of the country started as tax lawyers. (Kanga, Palkhivala, Sorabjee, Salve etc.)

Do you also not consider company law to be a pure law as CS practice the same?

I am from 2025 batch.

I am very much confused about going to law firms or going to corporate.

Practise area doesn't bothers me.

I just want to settle and get the job.

I am confused that whether I should do 1-1 month law firm internships or should do long term corporate internship.

I am worried that law firms will not given extensions and it highly depends on vacancies as well. On the other hand I want a good package also.

What should I do?

Law firm any day?

Or long term corporate internship?

Answers from the experienced ones are highly appreciated.

What are the teams at Tri Bangalore and Mumbai those are likely to hand out PPOs for their corp teams? Which teams across these two offices (name partners) have good work culture (don't mind the hours, just shouldn't be toxic). Any insights on Kannan's (Mumbai) and Arjun's (Bangalore) Team would be much appreciated. Also, who are the other partners in Arjun's team, heard that he is a non-toxic and pleasant to work with, TBH any tips on non-toxic partners and teams would be super helpful!

Any info on the corp practices of both the offices would be much appreciated.

Yours eternally grateful,

Jobless Jolene

To the one who posted this and the first response, cut down the condescension and understand where people working in chambers are coming from. Yes, it's unfortunate that litigation lawyers are still being grossly underpaid. But a lot of people are willing to put up with it because that's where you truly learn litigation. It's not that people in chambers are inherently dumber than those in tier 1s, it's a question of long term goals and priorities. Working in a chambers is an excellent way to gain immense exposure, both in terms of understanding court craft and also in terms of learning how a chambers functions. The things you learn at a chambers will definitely put you on track to take up independent practice. If you need any more convincing, ask yourself how much senior advocates and even junior counsels make by arguing matters. Even partners at tier 1 law firms will bend over backwards in respect for counsels, even if they're on the younger side, because that's the value they bring to the table when matters have to be argued. In short, it's a matter of priorities, not everyone's just in it for the big bucks straight after law school.

During my day 0 two years ago, these were the two topics that came up in GD:

1. Do deadlines negatively impact creativity?

2. Third Party funding in litigation: Boon or Bane?

These were fairly general and open ended in nature, I'd suggest staying abreast of legal developments and hot topics in legal news, even if they're not specific to the field you're looking to join. All the best!

Bro, you're in a T1 NLU — you don't need connections for T2 firms. Two out of the three T1 NLUs have a longstanding relationship with Veritas and have specifically assigned internship slots for them. The third is NLS & if you have a good CV and apply to Veritas HR there's little chance that she would say no to you.

For Indus, send mails to the HR person who serves as POC for your college's committee. Otherwise just find recent alumni from college who work there and shoot them messages for internships. One of them will end up being kind enough to forward your mail or atleast permit you to CC them on a mail — either of them will increase your chances. For Argus, again, your college would have an assigned POC HR, figure it out and drop mails.

All of that said and done, if you have a good CV and are from the top 3 colleges, you could definitely aim higher and get a spot at a better & higher paying firm.

heyo, as someone who has interned there and got in without any connections, imma try and help out. cold emailing argus partners almost never works, it seems they have a sort of filter to external mails. their selection procedure is pretty random ngl, they actually actually check the forms filled on the website - i was p surprised too. they do have a preference for local candidates tho, but if you mail the HR a few more times and follow up a bunch, im sure they'll accept it. in fact indus too for that matter, i did cold email a partner initially, but getting into both these firms took me 30 follow up mails each lmao. essentially, be patient w it and one day they'll stop ignoring you hehe

This wage warfare between all these firms dramatically raising prices to compete with each other should ignite class consciousness about how low associates at the lower ends of the totem pole are actually getting paid. The market mechanics of acquiring more labour is fueling this - the actual wages must be much much higher than what even this increase suggests.

1.Which team in the law firm should I be part of to get most in-house opportunities?

2. If I am not able to manage stress etc. in law firm as an A0, what is the minimum time period I should spend to get into in-house counsel practice? I guess few months would be like 'this guy is useless'. Atleast one year?

3. If I am able to survive law firm pressure in the initial years but then want to spend more time with family and kids etc. then what is the ideal time/PQE to switch? Five years?

us bhai us, this world is a cruel place. Reaching out to people has become a hobby now with no oppournities i also dont know what to do. Fuck this, Law as a profession is highly nepotisitic see even the judges, its like the king's son geting the thrown. Partners are mere people they would anyways prefer to hire from their connects or the T1 NLUs. We people struggle a lot!

I think some of the people here don't really understand the concept of "P*aki-bashing" that developed in the 80s and 90s UK. It's basically about the hatred of Pakistaniness and the associated of Pakistanis with negative attributes - and often Islam and Muslims are stereotyped as equating to Pakistanis. So when it comes to many social issues, Pakistanis are the main target. Furthermore, the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are the most segregated in the UK, and are stereotyped with things like the drug trade, crime and youth delinquency, so it's much more than what you write about.

This is incorrect. The vast majority of the aggression is aimed at Muslims, and they have a lot of mainstream support from the British public and South Asians over this. I would not be surprised if there were riots between Hindus and Muslims as there were in the 2022 Leicester Riots.

There are a minority of far-right who hate everything including Indians, but I have come across more hate against Indians from Muslims and the left-wing, than I have from the far-right. It's only on highly moderated social media where racism against Indians is amplified.

The riots are predominantly between the nationalists and so-called "Pakistanis" (people from Muslim backgrounds of North African, Middle Eastern and South Asian descent) and generally Muslims.

There are a few racists in the far-right but most of them aren't hateful towards Indians and Sri Lankans. It's just like any protest or riot, you can't stereotype the entire group of people. But there have been a number of South Asians who have attended these far-right protests in the UK.

A bigger issue is that anti-immigration sentiment is much higher and you might have problems integrating into British society. Generally immigrants have been complaining about declining living standards and rising crime, a lot of which is to blame on Muslims (Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and North Africans generally). I have heard from a lot of immigrants from both South Asian and other backgrounds that the quality-of-life is not worth the effort, and that all the racism currently (from both right wing and left wing) is causing many to return back - the former first minister of Scotland is reportedly planning to leave Europe due to fears of rising Islamophobia.

Employment will definitively increase as the new labour codes will be passed soon. This will put India's laws in line with other jurisdictions and the manner of enforcement will again give rise to contentious issues. The core of employment practice lies at the heart of human actions and therefore the practice will continue to grow.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/corporate/highest-law-firm-salary-so-far-this-law-firm-is-offering-more-than-large-firms-for-fresh-law-graduates

But Touchstone hardly hires like 2-4 freshers.. what's the point? it's good for nothing.

How do you identify your political and social outlook ? Are you left -right-moderate, and why ? Do you think as part of the judiciary we should have a political leaning ? As lawyers, advocates, judges, academicians should we try be more moderate ? I usually am in the centre as I am both impressed and disappointed by the arguments and points out forth by both sides. Therefore I am curious as a legal fraternity where do you stand ? How much does your political alignment affect your job ?

P.S please avoid the Gobi and Pappu, commie and bhakt analogies here. Let's have a healthy discussion.

Caps mar lawyers will keep reading the same SEBI regs over and over again. PE lawyers lol- wahi SPA (cut copy paste) and FEMA all day. IP lawyers in law firm lol. Just cos you think thats all that projects lawyers do, doesn't necessarily make it correct. Go out and learn. Band buddhi

Guessing most of the guys commenting here are are our glorified M&A/Gen corporate lawyers who've done a couple of deals on the infra side and think they've figured out projects as such.

I can give you a longish answer as such- but the general.theme is all law firm work is 'boring' when viewed through the lens of these jokers.

Happy to expand and tell you the upsides if you want, but the subgkr biggest upside is this id the closest you'll get to commercials, compared to any other practise area. What that also means is if you have longer term in house ambitions- this works best.

Companies don't do M&A for a living (except a few fund houses), nor do they keep listing themselves time and again (one IPO on 10-15 years) nor do they keep litigation for the F of it. Let me know if you know further deets.