ICICI legal hikes starting salaries above Rs 9 lakh barrier

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ICICI Bank’s in-house department, which hired 24 campus graduates this year, has increased the salary package of new joiners to Rs 9.05 lakhs per year. This figure includes all benefits that employees receive but lawyers can choose to be paid the amount in full on a retainer basis after six months with the company.

The new starting salary was a figure that was the “cost-to-company” and included loans, assistance with housing, pensions and other benefits, explained ICICIgeneral counsel Pramod Rao.

“They have an option about six months later to move to being exclusive retainers in which case their package becomes completely payable in cash subject to deduction of applicable taxes,” said Rao.

The previous ICICI package was betwen Rs 8.35 and 8.8 lakh according to Legally India’s starting salary survey.

In-house lawyers traditionally suspend their Bar Council membership and take up employment with companies and members of the ICICI’s in-house department which is called “corporate legal group” get similar benefits to the bank’s other employees.

By contrast, most law firm lawyers are employed on a retainer basis by law firms, which means that they can handle their own tax affairs and which could result in higher pay.

Rao said that the retainer option was introduced around three years ago and that the take-up by lawyers had been around 30 per cent within the corporate legal group.

Lawyers under the scheme have a one-time option during their career to opt back to being an ICICI employee.

It is understood that one advantage of being an employee is that senior employee lawyers can be eligible to be granted ESOPs (employee share option schemes) in ICICI.

The revised retainer remuneration of Rs 9.05 lakhs would put ICICI just ahead of Luthra & Luthra’s starting remuneration and only slightly less than firms such as Amarchand Mangaldas and AZB & Partners, according to Legally India’s salary survey.

It is understood that Luthra & Luthra has budgeted for an increase of its base salaries from Rs 9 lakh per annum, although this is still to be finalised and announced.

Rao also added that ICICI corporate legal group had recruited around 24 students from law schools this year, all of whom are now working at the bank. The new salary also applies to the new joiners although they were originally recruited on the basis of the lower salary.

2010 Indian legal recruiters’ basic starting salary, excl. performance-related pay unless indicated
Firm
AZB & Partners (Mumbai)
S&R Associates
Trilegal
AZB & Partners (Delhi)
Amarchand Mangaldas
J Sagar Associates (JSA)
ICICI Bank
Luthra & Luthra
Wadia Ghandy
Talwar Thakore
Khaitan & Co
Desai & Diwanji
Nishith Desai Associates (NDA)
SAIL
Phoenix Legal
IFMR
Juriscorp
Pangea3
Lakshmikumaran Sridharan
Crawford Bayley
Kochhar & Co
Supreme Court judicial clerkships

Source Legally India *CTC: “cost to company” figure can include other benefits than just base salary.

Comments

Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 08:12
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Good measures by icici.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 09:21
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So, the article talks about law firms hiring graduates on a 'retainer' basis (and ICICI allowing their 'corporate' employees to be on retainer as well).

So, does this mean that these graduates (working at law firms/ICICI/and any other corporate houses offering the retainer option) do not have to suspend their enrollments with the state bar councils? This was not what was said before on these forums sometime back when this discussion came up. I believe the opinion then was that law firms recruited new graduates as 'employees' who later had the option of becoming part-owners if the law firm opened up for partnership. The retainer statement above makes it seem like the law firm lawyers work more on a 'contract' basis than an employee basis. This is a good thing as it will allow the lawyers to maintain their name on state rolls. But, I want to be sure that it is indeed the case.

Kian, can you please clarify.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 14:08
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I have heard that the ICICI salary is fully of interest free loans for this and that if the employee so chooses to avail of them .. but what they actually earn is about 40,000 a month

anybody?
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 15:28
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khaitan ????????????Haha!good joke..get facts clear LI!
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 16:20
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@2

Well in so far as I know most law firms leaving Nisith Desai have the retainer model. The report is perfectly correct in stating that lawyers engaged on retainer basis do not need to suspend their Bar Council Memberships and are well entitled to appear before Court and Tribunals.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 16:53
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Lawyers in India are grossly underpaid. Foreign law firms need to be allowed in NOW.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 17:44
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@Gentleman at 6

Well you can have good payments for lawyers in India even without calling in the foreign firms. You may note that I do not oppose the entry of foreign firms rather support the same on different grounds - (i) convenience for Indian multinationals (ii) availability of wider skills and experience.

Lawyers fees will depend upon the socio-economic standards of the society and in particular the business community. Secondly, regulation for law firms may help ensure decent pay outs to lawyers engaged by such firms. Thirdly, strict enforcement of law will drive more and more people and businesses to seek legal advice prior to entering into transactions as well as for documentation. All these can be achieved without the entry of foreign firms. Do think over the issue - the cause and solution. It is purely a national issue and has much to do with the society and internal regulations.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 17:46
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@ 6 I support entry of foreign law firms, however, for freshers and starters the packages offered by these organisations are more than enough.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 18:54
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#8: sorry i disagree. firstly, only a handful of ppl from NLSIU, NUJS, NALSAR etc get good packages. secondly, even these packages are not enough. in the US and UK lawyers earn almost as much as MBAs. in india the average IIM grad still earns much much more. the reason why IIM grads earn more is because there are MNCs working in india. unfortunatwly foreign law firms are not allowed because of the SILF and BCI mafia.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 19:26
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Are these base salaries the packages doled out to every fresher at ICICI and the firms on that list? Or are there plenty of exceptions?
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 19:41
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I understand that Khaitan & Co has offered 15 lacs to 8 students of NUJS. Is that true?
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 19:42
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Please do not vilify UK firms based on propaganda by vested interests.

Payscales in UK firms are much more fairer than in India. UK firms also do not treat associates as slaves and the seniors are more friendly. There are allegations of an "invisible bias" against Indians in UK firms because they are not OFTEN made partners but this is a little misleading. Firstly, Indians who are UK citizens do not usually face this problem and I think it is fair if a country discriminates in favour of its citizens. Secondly, the British upper class also discriminates against whites from lower-middle class or lower class backgrounds. This is not a racial issue but a cultural issue, Also, how many Indians make an effort to integrate in the West?

Please study or work in the West before accusing Westerners of racism based on skewed news reports about so-called "racist" attacks against Indians in Australia.
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 20:31
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I have been on a retainer for many years with an Indian firm and while doing my tax planning it used to be suggested to me by my auditor to claim part of my house and vehicle for business purposes. However, my only client was my firm, i spent all my time working in their office (for which they claimed tax deduction) and i was completely under supervision as an employee. I was never comfortable about this arrangement as i was an employee for all purposes but pretending to be a consultant having my own practice. I have read enough SC and HC decisions that clerly point out that such an arrangement would constitute a tax avoidance scheme bordering on tax evasion.

I would advise all young lawyers working on retainer to consider their tax treatment seriously and avoid trouble with the authorities at a later stage when stakes will be higher. BTW what irritates me is that the law firm employers know fully well about the risks but do not advise the young people correctly. In any other global organisation, one of the big fours would have done a proper tax memo and Do's and Donts for all new joiners (at the employers cost)
Anonymous guest 23 Jul 2010, 22:28
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"I understand that Khaitan & Co has offered 15 lacs to 8 students of NUJS. Is that true?"

load of c**p. however 15 lakhs packages could become frequent if the legal sector is liberalised. balaji's case goes to the SC next week so it should be interesting
Anonymous guest 24 Jul 2010, 00:59
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To #5 and #13 - Just to hit the nail in the head and to put this issue to rest once and for all --> what I gather from you is that any of the law firms (A&M, Fox etc.) along with a lot of corporates (ICICI etc), although advertise for lawyers to work for them - either as senior or junior associates or fresh law grads - do not actually have these lawyers as employees on the payroll, but instead treat them as contracting staff who are on a retainer basis? This way, the lawyer is free to continue their bar council membership and practice before courts and continue to maintain their seniority without giving up the law firm job. The only difference between the lawyers doing this arrangement versus someone who is truly working as a litigator is that the law firm lawyer (on the retainer) has only one client - the law firm, whereas the other lawyer can bring in multiple clients. Am I correct?
Anonymous guest 24 Jul 2010, 02:00
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#15 the lawyers in law firm advise the clients of the law firm. so it may not be accurate to say that they have only one client. However for tax purposes they have only one customer. The lawyer on retainers also do not raise an invoice to the law firms or deduct service tax which they should do if they really have to call themselves as consulatnts and not employees. Most retainer agreements also bar lawyers from having any other client. So it is truly an employment arrangement but given the name of a consultancy.
Anonymous guest 25 Jul 2010, 00:19
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Very interesting posts. As a graduate just out of college and looking for a job in transactional law at a law firm, will i be given the option being an employee or on retainer? If not, why not? If yes, which option makes more sense?
Anonymous guest 28 Jul 2010, 06:36
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Well people who have any doubts, just checked with my senior from symbiosis who was recruited this yr and they are very much gettin a 9.05 package, with a cool 50k plus in hand. so rest your mind on that. moreover the retainer option doesnt harm their growth in the firm too. So ICICI actually looks like a great place to start. but ya they do have a loan component :P
Anonymous guest 3 Aug 2010, 20:06
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You ultimately get 35-0 thousand in hand even after the revision of the salary..... 9.03 is CTC..... u end up getting only 35000 per month
Anonymous guest 11 Sept 2010, 20:11
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CTC is a vague concept....
Jyoti 21 Sept 2010, 01:14
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Kian, this article is completely misleading. ICICI starting salaries are not more than 45k gross (i.e. before tax) and after taking EPF into account are still less than 50k. That's only 6 lakhs p.a. As for the 'free loans' and other so called 'perks' there are millions of shady conditions attached and a friend of mine found out the hard way what happens when you take such a loan and try to leave before 3 years and was made to pay an astronomical sum forcefully. The industry reputation of the bank's legal department is mediocre at best and newcomers are advised to avoid it unless they have no other option.

I am also amazed at how ICICI is doing this 'retainership' initiative because from what I know, these "retainers" are no different from employees except in nomenclature. The BCI should investigate how this practice is being propounded as it looks like blatant flouting of the Advocates Act - lawyers working full time for a corporate and exercising all powers of employees but being allowed to enrol and hold a sanad.
anonymous 25 Aug 2011, 15:04
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can anyone please tell if llb graduate in india can work in uk or any other country and how to go about
Rohit 11 Apr 2012, 07:44
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Why In House lawyers are paid to the lowest of their efficiency