Are NUJS online courses illegal? iPleaders, ex-SJA prez Arjun Agarwal argue out each side of the case

NUJS distance education courses
NUJS distance education courses

By July of last year, NUJS Kolkata’s interim administration had unilaterally shut down its distance learning certificate courses contractually provided by all third parties.

This resulted in one student approaching the Calcutta high court, which chastised NUJS for its decision leading to confusion about the status of already-enrolled students.

Distance education company iPleaders, set up by NUJS Kolkata graduates Abhyudaya Agarwal and Ramanuj Mukherjee, which was running 11 courses for NUJS, was the hardest hit by the ban.

iPleaders has reached out to us a while ago with a detailed statement arguing that its online courses were never illegal, and that the onus was on whoever alleges illegality having to provide such proof.

2016-18 NUJS Student Juridical Association (SJA) president Arjun Agarwal, who has since graduated from NUJS, has long claimed the opposite, which was later accepted by NUJS’ academic and executive councils. He had also written a letter to the Chief Justice of India (CJI) about this in March.

We have allowed both sides responses and counter-responses to the respective arguments (with Arjun Agarwal responding in a purely personal capacity), and have published the exchange below (due warning, the full documents of their arguments, included below this article, are quite lengthy).

Disclosures: iPleaders had been an advertiser on Legally India several years ago.

iPleaders arguments summarised

In summary, the iPleaders’ case is that its online courses with NUJS were not illegal on the ground of non-recognition, and that no legal provisions have been presented that such courses are illegal. UGC had specifically regulated all kinds of online courses through new regulations in 2018, by when new admissions to the courses were already discontinued, it argued.

iPleaders has provided the following summary of its position:

  1. UGC started regulating kinds of online courses through regulations issued in 2018 (applicable from 4th July). By then, admissions in all online courses conducted with the assistance of iPleaders had stopped. These regulations are prospectively applicable, and cannot therefore impact the completion of courses of ongoing students or despatch of certificates to students who had already completed the courses by then. No students were admitted once the regulations were in force.
  2. Until 2018 regulations were issued, non-recognition by UGC guidelines only implied that the degrees granted without such recognition are not valid for Central Government recruitment purposes. It does not imply illegality or a prohibition from launching and conducting courses through online mode. This was the case with all the other online courses being offered by India, including by various institutions of eminence as UGC gave no recognition for any online courses in absence of a governing legislation.
  3. NUJS, being a statutory university, was empowered by Section 5 of the WBNUJS Act, 1999, which is a law passed by the West Bengal Government, to run its own certificate and diploma courses without requiring any additional approvals from IGNOU / UGC unless there was a clear provision to the contrary in another instrument.
  4. NUJS had also applied for recognition of its online courses under the IGNOU Distance Education Council’s (DEC) Guidelines in 2014-2015, which were applicable at that point in time. However, no action was taken on NUJS’ application by UGC. UGC has itself admitted that it did not recognise any new institutions as distance education providers between 2013 and 2017.
  5. The outright prohibition by specified UGC through its 2016 letters that Arjun Agarwal cites was not applicable to NUJS, as it was applicable only to universities recognized by UGC for offering distance courses which conducted online courses (the letter was specifically addressed to these universities), or to universities which were not recognised by UGC but misled interested applicants to believe that they are so recognised by UGC. NUJS’ online courses were not recognized by UGC and NUJS did not mislead applicants about non-recognition of its online courses, and rather specifically informed applicants through website and admission forms that there was no UGC recognition and the consequences thereof.
  6. This position is agreed upon by UGC as well as all universities including IIMs and IITs and a number of central universities that offered online courses in large numbers in last 10 years. UGC never gave permission to any of these institutions or courses either, but they were successfully run and UGC has never objected to the same. UGC simply did not have any legal instrument under which it could regulate or prohibit any online course in the first place, until in July 2018 when such instrument was legislated. In absence of any clear provision of law that prevented NUJS from offering online courses without UGC recognition, ill informed persons such as Arjun Agarwal are trying to point at disparate instruments trying to claim that UGC prohibited NUJS from offering online courses without UGC recognition, which is absolutely unjustifiable.
  7. So far NUJS EC has given no opportunity to either students of the online courses or iPleaders to present its side of the case and the same has been systematically prevented. iPleaders is appealing that there must be an independent inquiry set up before which students of the courses affected as well as iPleaders should be given an opportunity to be heard.

Counter-case summary of Arjun Agarwal

In his rebuttals, Arjun Agarwal categorically opposed iPleaders’s contentions, relying primarily on the Supreme Court of India’s 2009 decision in Annamalai University vs. Secretary of Government, Information and Tourism Department & Ors.

Explaining his counter-position in summary, responding to each of iPleaders’ points above, Arjun Agarwal explained:

On #3: All guidelines/ regulations as prescribed by the UGC are mandatorily binding on all Universities, including NUJS, as per Supreme Court’s 2009 decision in Annamalai. The 2006 DEC Guidelines, as enforced by the erstwhile IGNOU DEC and later the UGC DEB, are binding in view of an express stipulation in the DEC Guidelines as well as Punjab & Haryana andSikkim High Courts’ cases. The Punjab & Haryana High Court case specifically confirms the applicability of DEC Guidelines to statutory universities and further holds that awarding certification in violation of DEC Guidelines is an illegal act. While NUJS had UGC affiliation to run its regular undergraduate, postgraduate and doctoral programmes, NUJS never had any approvals for distance education courses, thereby making all such courses illegal.

On #1, 2 and 5: The UGC circular dated 06.10.2016 unequivocally clarifies that no online courses are to be run till the notification of relevant regulations by UGC. Such notification of t took place only in July 2018, well after iPleaders’ courses were shut down by the 32nd AC in May 2018. Admittedly, the said UGC circular was not marked specifically to NUJS since NUJS never had the requisite approvals for even the otherwise allowed offline courses. In effect, iPleaders is arguing that NUJS could exempt ‘itself’ from the mandatory applicability of a blanket prohibition against all online courses applicable to all Universities by simply not complying with the DEC Guidelines with respect to its offline courses. No one can benefit from their own wrong. Annamalai clarifies that any relaxation is not possible for “basic things necessary for conferment of a degree”, much less a self-relaxation as argued by iPleaders.

On #4: Differences in the number of entries in various lists of approved distance education providers (for instance, 26.05.2015 and 26.08.2016) published by the UGC between 2013 and 2017 clearly bely the same. In any case, Annamalaiunequivocally holds that such inaction, even assuming iPleaders’ assertion to be true, by the UGC does not result in automatic approval.

On #6: The claim that UGC has agreed with iPleaders’ position is based on convenient reading of a purported RTI response. Apart from that, there is no express or implied agreement by the UGC, as claimed. It is settled that an RTI cannot be used for obtaining legal advice, and in any case, RTI responses are not to be read as statutes. The rest is mere name-dropping and legally irrelevant to that extent.

On #7: Arjun has himself been supporting a thorough investigation, with fair opportunity of being heard for all relevant stakeholders, since the very beginning. Curiously, neither iPleaders nor its students have claimed (either before the courts or the EC) that the basis of the 32nd AC’s, 61st EC and 62nd EC decisions, i.e., the courses were being run illegally, is incorrect. In fact,iPleaders’ students’ W.P. No. 25595 (W) of 2018 before the Hon’ble High Court of Calcutta was recently dismissed on the basis that it merely challenged NUJS’ belated notices to suspend/ terminate distance education courses and not the 32nd AC’s decision itself. It has been over a year since the 32nd AC first suspended iPleaders’ courses.

Full arguments below

We had given both sides several opportunities to respond to the counter-cases, and have uploaded their full arguments below.

iPleaders - Are NUJS courses illegal

Ajrun Agarwal response to iPleaders

iPleaders counter-response to Arjun Agarwal

Comments

This guy??? 20 May 2019, 12:28
+26 -20
[quote]"Several positive measures are now being taken to ensure transparency in the functioning of the university. We expect a responsive, transparent and invigorated administration under the leadership of the new interim vice-chancellor, Justice Talukdar," said Arjun Agarwal, president of the NUJS Student Juridical Association.[/quote]

*cough*

https://www.telegraphindia.com/states/west-bengal/panel-to-probe-ex-vc/cid/1417890
Xnluo 22 May 2019, 07:19
+8 -8
Comment after reading the docs: [...] refer to unrelated notices to claim that there was a prohibition? One glance at the iPleaders rejoinder makes it clear that Arjun has no argument at all! Only a bunch of obfuscatory statements.
#WeStandWithRamanuj 20 May 2019, 12:55
+36 -23
I am writing to give you an idea of what many (if not most) of the old alumni of NUJS thing about this mess. By "old" I mean graduated between 2005 and around 2012, i.e. the Menon-Chimni-Singh eras.

The old alumni believe that the treatment of iPleaders is merely one of dozens of examples in which the old alumni have been systematically snubbed by the Bhat-era SJAs in every sphere.

iPleaders is trying to do what Enhelion is doing at GNLU, the only difference being that iPleaders offers a better product. The courses earned some money for the college (as opposed to ZERO before) and improved the reputation of the college. It was also a good example of student entrepreneurship, as opposed to the same law old law firm route.

A disgruntled set of losers in the faculty (famous for plagiarised PhDs, zero knowledge of law and village-level English) got jealous at some professors getting a slice of the pie. As these clowns can never get consultancy opportunities themselves, they set out to sabotage iPleaders. These people would never get any importance among old alumni, but they have many fans among the current students as they bribe them with marks.

You can then conclude what happened next, and also what is happening now. Why the current "squatter" VC is not facing protests despite being worse than Bhat. Why the clown profs have a lot of clout and enjoy student support. Why no one is raising their voice at a VC not being appointed 7 months after the advertisement. Why no alumni petition is being mobilised (unlike the one in 2012).

#WeStandWithRamanuj
Rabri 20 May 2019, 13:28
+29 -4
Kian please get an independent lawyer to give an opinion on the legality and publish the same too. Will help us greatly to understand what's the real legal issue here.
Guest 21 May 2019, 21:09
+2 -6
Good heaven's! Can't you research this yourself?
haradhan 22 May 2019, 06:11
+10 -1
any sane person will point out that while NUJS is within its rights to shut down any course it wants to shut down, it cannot do so by refusing to give certificates to all the people who already qualified for it or studied for it. No law, no court and no government will support that. over 3000 students have been affected here, will they be left out in the cold? Justice league has been stalling the matter by demanding that course coordiantors should pay refunds to the students. Are they nuts? What did the university do with the money, since they did not even share it iPleaders, according to claims of iPleaders which NUJS has not contested so far? Taluk and Justice league using their clout and manipulation has managed to keep the matter under wraps so far, but when justice rains it pours. Do not forget that. Taluk is waiting to ride into the sunset but what will happen to the insiders who brought this calamity upon NUJS?
nothing 22 May 2019, 07:06
+3 -1
nothing will happen to them. the students love them and will continue to support all the nonsense that they are up to.
V 20 May 2019, 13:51
+11 -12
Red herring.
Xnluo 22 May 2019, 05:11
+7 -0
What's the problem with this proposal? Are you scared?
Guest 20 May 2019, 13:02
+25 -5
Taluk and Partners Ltd are the only beneficiaries of this ugly fight within the NUJS family and lack of unity against misgovernance (which you will not see at other NLUs).
Anon EC Member 20 May 2019, 13:04
+19 -30
Who is iPleaders trying to fool? There was a story a year back here, wherein they vowed action against NUJS.

Are they seriously thinking that by simply claiming that they did no wrong they can exonerate themselves? They keep saying no one is listening to them, but they have not addressed one letter to the EC arguing this non-sensical stance of theirs. They have not filed any petition claiming that their courses are legal. There are EC resolutions recording their illegalities, which have not been questioned. This is a distraction tactic to misguide the inquiry set up by EC few days back.
Ramanuj1 20 May 2019, 13:38
+31 -18
EC is not a platform accessible to us. When students filed cases, In delhi and kolkata, we have made our stance clear which is consistent with what I said here. We have no locus standi as a service provider to NUJS to file a case saying courses are legal. Students have filed those cases and when they will be heard on merits appropriate decisions will come from courts. In kolkata HC the student case was dismissed on a technical ground that students challenged a notice and not the EC resolution (which were not published until then in any case). iPleaders will continue to take legal actions according to its interest. We have written numrous letters to the VC. How can we write to the EC? Please tell me who should we write to and how it will be heard? We have published this on legallyindia with the hope to attract attention of the conscientious EC members. How can an enquiry be conducted against us without giving us a chance to be heard?

For the time being, why do not you comment on what basis you held the courses to be illegal in EC meetings, and what were the instruments which made the course illegal? Point it out please. Arjun failed, maybe you will succeed.
Ramanuj1 20 May 2019, 13:51
+28 -20
Also, I would like to point out that there has been no formal complaints against us. EC resolutions within NUJS does not mean anything, except that we are not getting paid our legal dues under a valid contract. For this, we will take all actions. We shared the write up above with Kian many months back originally, but he did not have time to run through the arduous process at that time. About a couple of months back we restarted the process and requested Kian to take another look at it. Thanks to Kian, for the first time, we have been able to put our points on a public domain, on record, and hope this will be taken into account by some of the EC members and current NUJS students. We can deal with our issue of non-payment with NUJS, but it is unfortunate that close to 3500 students of online courses are being victimised.
Ramanuj Bro 20 May 2019, 18:42
+15 -18
Bro you had vowed action a year back almost. LI had a story on this. Where is the action? Where have you told a Court or anyone apart from LI that your courses were not illegal. Show me a court document, where you claim so.
Ramanuj1 20 May 2019, 19:23
+26 -11
Sure we will share our submissions to the court with Kian to put up here. The action against NUJS for illegally stopping courses is being taken by students. They have full support from us. We will assist the courts by giving them all information transparently!
Mamta Benarji 20 May 2019, 20:06
+32 -12
Arjun Agarwal's comments are [...]. He has not written anything substantial in support of his statement.

On one side we can see prestige of a great institution being crushed by some [...] who don't even know about the vision of their predecessors.

On other side there are old students who are still providing services and completing their part of contract. God will always help them.

On the third side there are students who had trusted NUJS who fraudulently took money from them and now not providing them their certificates.

And on the forth side I can see bunch of ideot NUJS teachers teaching and making another bunch of ideots. Now even god can not save NUJS. I can bet that no one will trust NUJS after all that is happening.

[...]

Only one word for them....... Aaakthuuu
Prof 20 May 2019, 18:40
+17 -33
Having skimmed through all three documents, I believe Arjun is on point [...].

Unfortunate that a 2018 Grad is owning old-timers so ruthlessly! But good fun, nonetheless, for us fence sitters.
Guest 20 May 2019, 19:49
+27 -9
Curious to know why Arjun Agarwal and haters of iPleaders are mum about a "rather particular" instance of plagiarism and selectively fight battles.
Guest - NUJS 22 May 2019, 09:20
+0 -0
Which plagiarism are you talking about?
Guest 20 May 2019, 19:51
+31 -6
Idiot students with messed up priorities. No wonder the VC appointment is being rigged and the admin gets away with murder.
Sheriff 20 May 2019, 19:56
+29 -9
iPleaders was unfairly made a casualty in the crusade against Bhat.. These people were shamefully silent about misdemeanours committed by the anti-PIB gang... The real issues like faculty quality and infrastructure have been forgotten.. iPleaders was acting 100% legally.
Sad state of events 21 May 2019, 03:32
+27 -9
Such lack of student-alumni unity is exactly why the TMC gang has hijacked NUJS. A student-alumni protest petition is not possible in such a toxic atmosphere. There is distrust and division between the older generation and younger generation/current students. Some more examples:

1. While other NLUs crave alumni as faculty, here faculty from the old generation are treated with contempt by the current students. Instead, a virtually illiterate prof is treated as god.

2. Even people offering free of charge iPleaders-type initiatives (e.g. 2-day course on corp law) are told to FO. Recently, a senior NLSIU alum giving guest lectures at NUJS was shocked that half the class was stoned from partying.

3. The old generation was expressing sadness for friends of NUJS who recently passed away, like Menon, Somnath Chatterjee, Dipankar Gupta etc. Some initiatives to honour them were proposed. The young generation was like "who the hell are these people"?
Guest 21 May 2019, 03:34
+26 -7
[img]http://web.colby.edu/cogblog/files/2018/04/goebbelsquote.jpg[/img]

I support iPleaders. Justice and truth will prevail in the end.
Guest 21 May 2019, 05:04
+26 -3
This is a very sad situation for the students and the country as well because so called esteemed educational organisation are playing with the career of the students and the Justice givers and government is just allowing it to happen...
Guest 21 May 2019, 05:14
+24 -2
The institute which itself is founded to educate it's student to learn and fight for justice is now playing with the career of students....what a pathetic situation for us and our country. Even I one of the victimised student...joined the course with lot of passion and was absolutely clueless that NUJS is a big question mark...matter is being just dragging since past one year in the courts and we students are still hopeful that students will definitely get justice....no university should just have the privilege to play with the career of students at their fancies....please support to get justice and let's not allow this to become infectious for our future youths...
Guest 21 May 2019, 05:48
+10 -12
[...] answer to the poor student victims of the courses: LET THEM EAT CAKE.
Guest 21 May 2019, 06:18
+30 -7
iPleaders is right as per law. Arjun Agarwal is behaving like Arvind Kejriwal and making crowd-pleasing statements.
AT, Lord 21 May 2019, 18:51
+3 -15
You have nothing to show against him, yet you call him names. Wow
Guest 22 May 2019, 04:51
+11 -2
[...] Check the very first comment for instance where he'd openly supported Taluk's regime. Never recanted his remarks since.
Guest List Topper 22 May 2019, 09:24
+3 -3
[...] do you understand things change with time? This comment is from May last year, after which Arjun has published at least three articles criticising Talukdar for lack of action.. How has he not recanted his remarks since? Also, your online army is just going for ad hominem against him, [...]

[...]
Guest 22 May 2019, 09:46
+3 -2
He hasn't admitted that he'd jumped the gun in forcing PIB to quit the way he did, which required interim VC to begin with and that too a state government stooge. Nor has in any of his articles he has admitted that he had been hasty in extending 'warm welcome' to Taluk and Co. Basically he has not admitted his fault in the whole scheme of things for a single moment. As for your ad hominem point, he himself has repeated such things about individuals multiple times in all his petitions without full knowledge, half-truths (or worse, malicious intent despite having knowledge), without supporting documents etc. That's how karma works.
Guest is Ramanuj Stoog 22 May 2019, 10:49
+1 -1
[...]

@Kian, it appears you're only filtering anti-iPleaders comments. Please be fair, and don't filter this if [...]

As of today, a High Court judge, Justice PPB has recorded in an interim order that it's not understood how NUJS entered into MoUs with unknown private entities such as iPleaders. [...]
kianganz 22 May 2019, 10:52
+0 -0
Actually, a fair number of unparliamentary comments against either side have been filtered... :)
Guest is Fake 22 May 2019, 10:51
+1 -2
I don't believe Arjun was rushed at the time to praise Taluk, for two months of performance where Taluk cooperated in replacement of Sarfaraz as Registrar while also banning illegal distance courses.
Guest is Thief 22 May 2019, 10:53
+2 -1
Funny people would even go to the extent of defending PIB, [...] like those sympathizing with him right now, just to say things against the one who exposed all of them.
Guest is Thief 22 May 2019, 10:54
+2 -3
Next time you say his petitions lacked substantiation, have the wits to point out where and on which point. At least he made out a strong legal case against iPleaders illegalities, unlike you just saying things are baseless when EC and AC are always forced to take action on his words, even now, despite their contempt for him.
Guest 21 May 2019, 10:08
+18 -4
Once NKC assumes charge as VC I-pleaders can expect a sympathetic hearing.
Noojie 21 May 2019, 10:18
+20 -4
So long as the pathetic Justice League members wield influence within the place, nobody can expect any sympathetic consideration, let alone actual justice. These people are now inciting students and conspiring to get rid of alumni with industry expertise who are teaching here.
Guest 21 May 2019, 10:21
+15 -2
Kian pls do an expose on the scam surrounding the VC appointment. 7 months for the date of advertisement, 1.5 years of a squatter VC.
Chacha Chaudhary 21 May 2019, 11:51
+11 -6
Not sure if the "aaj kal ke bacche" crowd is engaging in some phenomenal astroturfing or just plain old-fashioned whataboutism.
Guest 21 May 2019, 19:27
+12 -1
NLSIU and NUJS VCs to be announce just after elections, i.e. SK and NKC respectively.
Guest 22 May 2019, 06:34
+4 -3
Hitler Mamata has appointed semi-educated stooge VCs in all state universities. The same is planned for NUJS. Sad that students are not protesting.
Guest 22 May 2019, 06:59
+3 -2
Nothing sad about it. Students here talk a big game, but are afraid of the work they would have to put in if competent people take charge instead.
Guest - NUJS 22 May 2019, 09:23
+0 -0
What's the latest news on the NUJS VC? Has NKC been confirmed, or does Vivekanandan or anyone else also have a chance?
Guest 22 May 2019, 09:47
+1 -0
NKC has made his mobile no publicly available. LI should call him.
Guest 22 May 2019, 10:05
+1 -0
And exchange pleasantries or the latest updates from Fani damage? How would he knew when they are going to announce his name? He's ready to begin from tomorrow itself if they ask him.
Ramsay Bolton 22 May 2019, 10:16
+5 -4
Some observations and queries:

1. While the slugfest continues here, it is a fact that Arjun's version has been repeatedly accepted by the EC. iPleaders pleads that UGC approvals were optional or not required. Why did PIB and Co not mention this in the AC and EC and instead kept droning that UGC approvals will be acquired and courses will not be started without such approvals? Why did iPleaders help PIB and Co in filing an application to UGC?

2. Discounting the allegation that The EC (and AC) were allegedly blindsided by certain internal members previously to approve distance education courses without mandatory UGC approvals in place, Injustice League members were in the EC and AC when these courses were banned. Assuming that Lord Taluk was biased, what about the rest of the EC members? Don't tell me that EC members love Arjun or SJA.

3. The EC that was allegedly blindsided into approval hasn't changed much in composition. So why did they suddenly become deaf to veteran Injustice League EC members? Same goes for AC.

4. iPleaders always had access to the EC/AC. Did they write to the VC/Registrar/EC members requesting that their version be taken up? They had sympathisers in the EC and AC and still do. Maybe iPleaders should check what their faculty sympathisers are really doing.

5. Since plagiarism issue keeps coming up, why not complain to the VC/Registrar/AC/EC members directly? Afraid that the fire may spread elsewhere? Since Vendetta has been posting anonymous letters and comments, why this shoot-and-scoot? But be very careful what you ask for.

6. Here is a thing with iPleaders and its NUJS sympathisers. You all plead-and-say-a-lot. Can you please shift to doing something other than that? GoT was a bummer. The campus is Damned. We need better entertainment.

7. Btw whoever was talking about 3000 students getting affected, I have Ramsay Bolton for you "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." You are very welcome to try SC. But remember the numbers that got affected in 2G and Coalgate scams, derecognition of engineering and medical degrees, universities being shuttered etc.
Alumnus 22 May 2019, 12:38
+2 -3
A few points in relation to these. With the disclaimer that I don't give a hoot about ipleaders or the fate of these courses, only about the interests of NUJS and the actions of the people involved affecting such interests.
1. If EC had been truly convinced about illegalities having taken place, why on earth has it not been finishing the inquiries going on for over one year now? Instead all the actions that have been taken seem like interim ones, just like the admin, playing both sides, seeing where the wind blows. The courses too have not been banned, or the money refunded. Just suspended. Some on the day of exams, which have actually caused NUJS' reputation to be tarnished before the outside world. Even worse is the continuing silence of the admin about this and their refusal to respond to students of those courses. EC can't do everything for the admin, then the EC members may as well take residence in VC's office. On the contrary, this seems more and more like a ploy by the current admin to keep those faculty members in check, who were involved with this course. PIB I suspect did exactly the same by refusing to take action on PN Sinha Report, because the people whom it lambasted weren't close to PIB, but he found it more useful to keep them quiet instead of taking action and finishing it conclusively.
2. I don't really know Arjun's motives or reasons. But what he has done has been done. He's no more a student here. He can of course write op eds or file petitions as he deems fit. That's his right. Maybe there are things wrong within those petitions, I don't know. What about focusing on the allegations that are obviously and evidently true? Even if one doesn't jump to punish the guilty for alleged wrongs committed earlier, why not at least focus on doing things now without irregularity instead of focusing on damaged egos? Have faculty recruitment, apply for NAAC, get the research culture revived, enter into MOUs with foreign universities, have regular good quality credit courses by alumni and industry experts.
3. The first step is to ensure that the place gets a decent and permanent VC. Why aren't the existing students protesting and demanding for that? The next is to wrap up these never ending inquiries quickly. Censor the guilty, but at the same time, EC should take a careful look at itself if a handful of faculty could have hoodwinked them so easily about actual legalities of a policy or action! These are also people of law, not lay persons after all. At least ensure that proper procedure is in place so that something like this can't happen future, whether the Justice League fights for it or the Injustice League. Having as many as four faculty in the EC itself seems useless and suspicious, not to say overkill. With the VC and Registrar, there are now 6 people internally in the EC, whereas not more than 10 members appear for meetings overall.
4. I understand that students aren't expected to run the university or run after righting all wrongs. But given the strife between senior faculty, only they are left who can actually do something. Take lessons from other NLUs where others have protested effectively. It can be done in a civilised yet forceful manner. The academic standards of the place are collapsing, as is its reputation outside, despite occasional actions of note and worth, mostly by students. If this isn't stopped and reversed in time, students won't find an institution left worth fighting for. The faculty would continue to get salary, don't forget that, as will people in the admin. Don't listen to either camp, just think for yourself, and do what's best for NUJS.
Guest1 22 May 2019, 13:29
+2 -3
[...] Anyway, iPleaders made many letters written by it to the VC public, was even published here in LI. EC and AC does what VC asks it to do. When do they ever apply their mind? Arjun's version was accepted without any counter argument being presented. It means nothing. Cases will continue in HC, SC and many forums in time to come I am sure. NUJS will pay the price soon. Whatever said and done, NUJS started these courses and students paid money to NUJS coffers. The day when the students who were cheated reach the university and began protesting physically the situation will be very different.
Guest 22 May 2019, 12:06
+0 -2
The SJA must preemptively oppose the TMC mafia nominee and support VCV.... will be tragic if VCV doesn't make it due to silence from the students.
Guest 22 May 2019, 12:09
+1 -3
#WeAreWithYouiPleaders
Guest 22 May 2019, 18:29
+0 -1
TMC's gameplan is to delay the VC appointment until VCV heads to either NLSIU or NLUD.
Valar Morghulis 22 May 2019, 19:42
+1 -1
As far I know the iPleaders sympathetic faculty including those who were then in the EC and AC had exhorted a section of the aggrieved distance edu students to come to the university and confront the other EC members in September and December 2018. That plan flopped for unstated reasons.

Many here think that the internal feud is between rather particular non-NLU folks and the so-called competent but terribly wronged faculty mostly composed of folks having NLU and industry backgrounds. The reality is far more complex. There is also subterranean clash between two insecure sets of NLU groups and both have blood on their hands.

This internecine factionalism can only be reset if some are booted out or up and through fresh infusion of sizeable numbers of quality faculty. Only when the fats cats feel threatened that their cushy tushies are going to get whupped by competition will they stop mudslinging.

I believe Arjun has unwittingly started a process of creative destruction. As Qyburn put is so eloquently "Sometimes before we can usher in the new, the old must be put to rest"
ElCid 22 May 2019, 20:45
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Only read the post and the first few comments.

Every person who is boasting about quality of Ipleaders courses need to understand how practical their approach has been. Without challenging the AC resolution, without challenging the UGC resolution, they sought relief. Even if 1 person involved in the case was anywhere close to the place where real stuff gets done, would have had the practical knowledge of what was to be done.
Guest 25 May 2019, 05:50
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Mamata on backfoot...right time for students to oust Taimur and demand a VC appointed transparently
Guest 26 May 2019, 10:19
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The Justice League are peeing in their pants at the thought of Mamata getting booted out of power.
Guest 26 May 2019, 11:10
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Doesn't really matter to them. They would switch allegiance at the drop of a hat no matter who comes to power.
Guest 4 Jun 2019, 11:18
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NKC visited NUJS a few days ago to discuss taking over before the formal announcement. Here is a photo:

[img]https://i.ibb.co/vhj1ckh/xxxxx.png[/img]
fake news 5 Jun 2019, 12:04
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this was taken many months back when he came for something else.
SSC 5 Jun 2019, 12:05
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SS Chatterjee will be the VC of NUJS. AG will be appointed as registrar
Guest 5 Jun 2019, 13:54
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His name hasn't even been shortlisted among the final three, though Taimur had tried his damnedest on the behest of his lord and masters. The final name would be announced by end of June. NKC is the most likely person, but VCV also stands an outside chance still.
Guest 5 Jun 2019, 14:45
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VCV will be really good and is far more qualified than NKC. It will be really unfortunate if the TMC gang denies him the post. VCV's biggest strengths are that he is articulate, well connected, media savvy and aggressively pursues international collaborations. As the Dean of the IIT law school, he established a student exchange programme (with scholarship) with George Washington, and as Dean of Bennett he signed an MoU with Cornell Law School. NUJS desperately needs someone smart with good PR skills, after a decade of Bhat and Taimur.
Guest 5 Jun 2019, 15:10
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It is now 1.5 years with a squatter VC and 7 months since the date of advertisement for the new VC. Why is there no outrage?
Guest 5 Jun 2019, 16:29
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There's an outrage outage. Massive power failure within the SJA. Nobody coming up with electrifying motivational speeches. They prefer to remain grounded instead. Probably wired like that, most of them.
hell 6 Jun 2019, 06:43
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there is some anger concern amongst a good number of students, but no one knows what to do or whom to trust. The last time we fell for someones speeches and protested landed us in this spot where we are now. The faculty is as divided as they can get too.

then there are a number of others who are happy with the existing regime : everyone passes, no one is ever punished for plagiarism, one can get away with any sort of indiscipline.
Guest 5 Jun 2019, 18:44
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Wake up NUJS students and fight Hitler Mamata's attempts to take over your college!
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 05:03
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In today's Statesman, Arjun Agarwal has yet again attacked iPleaders and openly accused Prof Vaneeta Patnaik and Prof Anirbam Mazumder of unethical behaviour. I cannot understand why he is continuing to vent like this well after graduating from NUJS. He is giving a bad impression of NUJS in the mainstream media, during CLAT season. I am also shocked that he has praised Amit Talukdar as "venerable" and not mentioned the misgovernance under his regime. I hope iPleaders submits a rejoinder.

https://epaper.thestatesman.com/2186630/Kolkata-The-Statesman/6th-June-2019#page/16/2
Wow 6 Jun 2019, 12:29
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Some VERY serious allegations have been made by Arjun in the Statesman article.
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 13:38
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He's been making 'serious' allegations [...] without much of evidence to show for it. [...] He's taken every single advantage that PIB's inept regime provided throughout five years before choosing to rat them out to graduate in a blaze of glory. That part would have been fine as such, only he took help of politicians to do all that and the result is increased government interference and Taimur's reign for another year and a half with no end in sight and no good people interested to join as a VC. Arjun can't be blamed for everything that's wrong with this place, far from it. But he did allow himself to be used by one of the factions against another and he's still continuing to do it. Most of his allegations can be countered by one point. It is no secret that the people whom he has named are those whom the current regime doesn't hold hands with. Had there been actual evidence of their wrong doing, why would steps not be taken against them immediately, let alone in over 18 months? He keeps writing these opinion pieces without legal points in his support and he's further traction in this age where people would believe anything if you keep repeating it in front of them. Remember that he didn't respond to ipleaders rebuttal to his points about illegality of online courses etc. In his recent writings, he starts with taking such illegality for granted. One wonders why he hasn't taken legal action against the university via writs or by filing complaints to the UGC if he's so confident that illegalities have taken place?
he wont 6 Jun 2019, 14:11
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because if he approaches the courts his petitions will be dismissed with costs and then he wont be able to go about writing these pieces at newspapers that are on their death bead. If he was one bit serious he should have approached the courts with a PIL.
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 18:25
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If the gossip about NKC being appointed is true, NUJS is now firmly a tier 2 NLU along with NLUJ and NLIU, with tier 3 looking not too distant.
Guest 6 Jun 2019, 18:55
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Are you working at the IRCTC, given your obsession about tiers? If NLSIU could withstand Venkatrao, NUJS can do the same to NKC or anyone else for that matter. No individual is bigger than the institution.
CuriousCat 10 Dec 2020, 00:58
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I came across this while reading rants by and against the recent move by WBNUJS to conduct some course with the assistance of Algol Law firm.

Looking at the arguments for and against these ipleaders courses I feel this boy (Arjuna Agrawal) jumped the gun with some [...] and hasty conclusions on what is legal and what is illegal. The ipleaders reply is so mature and measured as contrasted to Arjuna [...]. Not surprisingly the boy has not been able to come up with a reply to ipleaders.

The sad part is that this senseless /mindless accusation led to WBNUJS losing a tried and tested partnership which did raise the visibility of the university and generated goodwill. Now all that is left is ill-will, bitterness and burning bridges with the older alumni who seem to have washed their hands off WBNUJS.
Guest 10 Dec 2020, 05:51
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The older alumni don't really give a damn about the founders of ipleaders, who hold webinars these days about how to 'seduce' girls.