NLS VC: Shortsgate controversy amicably resolved with Prof but apology status contested [UPDATE-2]

A press release by NLSIU Bangalore vice chancellor Venkata Rao sent to media today, stated that the “concerned professor and the students have amicably resolved the matter between them”.

The news of Professor V Nagaraj allegedly shaming a female student over having worn shorts to a lecture followed by inappropriate comments, had made national headlines after first reported by Legally India on 6 April, last week.

Rao’s statement today also noted: “We further request the media to kindly abstain from reporting this matter any further.”

“Additionally, it is further clarified that the matter as reported in certain sections of the media on 10th April about the tender of apology by the concerned professor on 9th April, is not correct,” added Rao’s statement.

However, one NLSIU student source close to the development told Legally India that Professor Nagaraj may not have apologised on 9 April (Saturday), but did apologise “profusely” on 10 April (Sunday) to the students during discussion, requesting students to keep his apology private and not to share it with the media.

However, the Bangalore Mirror and the Deccan Herald both reported on 10 April, citing student sources, that Nagaraj had expressed “regret” over the issue - presumably on the previous day (9 April).

Update 1: Added student source disagreeing on apology

Update 2 11 April: Nagaraj via email denied that he apologised:

I strongly deny the news reported in legallyindia.com today that according to one of the unidentified students, I have apologized for what has happened and asked the students to keep it to themselves and not to reveal it to media.

It is gross misrepresentation on the part of the student who reported. It is for the Vice-Chancellor as head of the institution to take appropriate action as he deems fit.

I would also like to add that I have informed the Vice-Chancellor that I will not be teaching the batch of students in question. As a Professor, keeping in mind the decorum of the institution and myself, I do not want to involve myself in such media trial.

Comments

Bored Graduate 10 Apr 2016, 14:25
+2 -0
Lol. Yes, noted would have been a better result than this!
???? 10 Apr 2016, 14:41
+2 -2
No apology???
NLS Alum 10 Apr 2016, 14:42
+16 -21
Venkat took a week to intervene. The Registrar hasn't spoken a word yet. Men of straw in the administration. Nagaraj seems to have become a victim of an immature and unchannelised student mob. A good teacher like him didn't deserve all this humiliation.
LOL 10 Apr 2016, 14:52
+20 -14
Oh please! And are you sure you are an alum? Maybe an LLM alum?
NLS Alum 10 Apr 2016, 15:47
+26 -12
Does being an LLM Alum make any difference? If only NLS had taught you too to argue on facts instead of getting personal.
LOL 10 Apr 2016, 18:34
+17 -12
Confirmed! LLM alum!
Hey alum 10 Apr 2016, 16:33
+7 -6
Hey man, there are witnesses to him making sexually coloured remarks and questioning the girl's character *because she wore shorts*. Students protested demanding an apology. Is that too much to ask for? If you are an alum, you will know that this is not the first time Nagaraj has made such statements. Or maybe you are a man and never really listened to what he was saying to/about your female peers.
off that high horse? 10 Apr 2016, 17:49
+9 -7
I believed he apologized in private for his comments on the girl's character. But for the students to mobilize and chastise him because he believes that wearing shorts to a class is improper and incorrect decorum; to issuing the public statement; and the media's reports on this issue - that's no form of public shaming, is it? And why make this about men v female peers? So sick of you lot!
Not high enough 10 Apr 2016, 18:38
+10 -5
Students mobilised because he made those comments. If they hadn't, he would not have apologised. Capiche?

It's not sick of "us lot". You clearly do not yourself know about the professor and the kind of things he has said, especially about women. I am not from this third year batch, I have long since graduated. I can attest for some of the shady things he has said and gotten away with because no one bothered to apply this kind of pressure (including things about women, specifically, in short clothes). I salute these kids!
Unreal 11 Apr 2016, 06:32
+3 -2
Then protest the statements made - and not by wearing shorts - the whole issue itself is titled "shortsgate".

There is a sense of propriety and decorum to an educational establishment, even absent a dress code. But to now contort the wearing of hotpants to class, to a "how dare he question my character and morals" completely retracts from the latter, which was the key issue.
ToI 11 Apr 2016, 07:20
+6 -2
You're the kind of person that comments on ToI, no?
How does one protest against a comment to the effect of "women have no character because they wear short shorts", or "women get raped because they wear short clothes"?
Any particular reason that you feel that wearing shorts is not a legitimate form of protest?

And no one is contorting the wearing of hotpants to class, because the man ACTUALLY questioned the girl's character and morals. From the outset, the kids have been saying that their protest is against the statements.

Also, given that there is no dress code, surely the onus is on the person objecting to particular clothing to show that it is causing a lack of decorum or propriety? Was that established, beyond the professor saying "I don't like these clothes so go change"?
TOI who? 12 Apr 2016, 08:36
+2 -1
Let me break this down for you, because evidently you cannot understand the difference between saying:

A) You were raped because you wear shorts; and
B) It is improper decorum to wear shorts to a lecture in an educational establishment, so you should "dress properly".

A) is an inappropriate statement. B) is not - at most, it can be subject to different perspectives of what constitutes "improper decorum".
The mobilization, media reporting and all action since (read BCI), address the fact that the student wore shorts to a class - not the disparaging statements made. The andolan has lost its name and, at best, all that is achieved is a publicly villifed professor who will not teach a certain batch. Kudos to nothing.
Anonymous56 11 Apr 2016, 11:28
+0 -0
Sir you should read the statements released by the students. They may be found in the other LI post about this issue. You might just understand what the issue is actually about
FYI 12 Apr 2016, 07:31
+4 -4
I agree. Such behaviour of students is not expected. Maybe their parents did not teach them manners in their childhood. Its because of their upbringing. Anarchists!
FYI 12 Apr 2016, 07:32
+4 -2
These students should be nationalists. They should learn from the brave students of NIT Srinagar on when to protest and stop all these trivialities.
Cover up 10 Apr 2016, 14:45
+3 -2
This leaves a lot of unanswered questions. Look at what Deccan Herald has said. Ask Deccan Herald if they stand by their report. Someone is lying here:

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/539569/nlsiu-prof-apologises-remarks-against.html
kianganz 10 Apr 2016, 15:05
+1 -0
The Herald report said that a student said that the professor said that he regretted what had happened. Not the same as an apology, so not necessity inconsistent.
Libtard 10 Apr 2016, 16:20
+4 -1
Herald has it right. He backed off from issuing a public apology after leading them on. Students are being gagged now by the admin, they agreed to silence themselves so that the teacher gets replaced.
Pewds 10 Apr 2016, 14:54
+4 -1
Wait so he didn't apologise and the matter is resolved? HOW?
Anon123908 10 Apr 2016, 15:36
+4 -2
Don't tell anyone but he apologised privately and wants to save his face in the media.
Nrajlied 10 Apr 2016, 15:59
+5 -2
He apologised. He [...]. He said [...] and agreed to compromise. He, then, backstabbed us and said you can't report all of this. of course [...]. but today we just had enough of him.
Random junior 10 Apr 2016, 15:43
+4 -1
This is just to save the professor's dignity. Hearing that he apologised in private, and won't be teaching the batch any longer. Seniors are being silenced forcibly, can't speak out about actual terms of settlement.
Admin cover-up 10 Apr 2016, 16:14
+6 -2
He's being removed as course teacher and gave an apology. VC is just helping him save face. Cheap shot by the admin, doesn't want the truth to get out.
Snake King Apologist 10 Apr 2016, 16:27
+3 -3
Students are being gagged. They can't reveal what actually happened to anyone, since he apologised in private and won't be teaching the class anymore. Seems like a great plan, now the truth will surely not get out.
Bulffmaster 10 Apr 2016, 16:47
+2 -0
Nice little compromise. He didn't apologise on the 9th, he did on the 10th. NLS VC playing games.
amused 10 Apr 2016, 17:11
+12 -2
The students chose "Alternate Dispute Resolution" to break the impasse as against a trial. They got an offer from the opposite party, backed by the mediator. The settlement was accepted by the 'large hearted' students however the terms cannot be disclosed as the agreement contains a confidentiality clause.

Can happen only in the Law School.
LLB 10 Apr 2016, 17:13
+4 -0
"The matter is resolved" Haha, an ADR Prof. after all. :P Smoothly done (on his part, of course)
BTSingh 10 Apr 2016, 17:17
+2 -1
So much BT this whole issue has become, man. This issue? Lel, I think every issue that universities these days are grappling with is BT. Let the students be. #stoptheBT
Anonymous5678997 10 Apr 2016, 17:29
+3 -4
It is deplorable that the administration allowed for a such a settlement to happen in this case. The prof, who has been teaching in NLS for 27 yrs, has a lot of clout and influence in the college faculty and administration. Clearly the students were bullied into agreeing to this statement. How else did their position and demands dilute so fast?

Legally India and other media houses should launch an independent investigation into this. A law school where a matter this sensitive is swept under the carpet doesn't deserve the reputation it is trying to protect.
Chill 10 Apr 2016, 18:24
+2 -0
Peace out!
kianganz 10 Apr 2016, 18:14
+13 -2
I'm wondering - what outcome do the students actually want from this?

In a way, the positive result of this episode is that it's extremely unlikely that any prof will ever repeat similar statements at NLS (and perhaps at other law schools too).

It might even result in greater sensitisation or awareness of other issues also, which are partly also generational, presumably.

From what I've heard of the story, it seems like the Professor's comments were obviously inappropriate, but they seem more likely to have stemmed from a certain tonedeafness and a different generation's attitudes, rather than outright sexism or malice. Also, after the class began to argue with him, he may have felt backed into a corner and lost his cool.

Do you think the coverage and the in-part vilifaction of Professor Nagaraj, particularly in the mainstream media, was entirely justified?

What would you have liked to happen? A public apology? Better handling by the admin? A differently worded statement?
one of the aggrieved 10 Apr 2016, 18:28
+3 -3
kian,

as one of the students aggrieved, we were clear that we wanted him to apologise to the batch. as the second statement that we released also states, we also wanted the vc to declare that there wouldn't be any imposition of a dress code. it's also become clear from the faculty's response to this that they also require some sort of sensitisation program that they will be unwilling to go through.
Graduate 10 Apr 2016, 18:56
+2 -1
Kian, I think you have raised some great points and put things in perspective here.
The mainstream media definitely went overboard in this issue even before any inquiry. Instances like branding the incident as one of slut shaming was wholly uncalled for. I don't think that the students anticipated it to take such a major turn either, but taking it to responsive authorities in the first place could have led to better results.
2 cents - Not NLS 11 Apr 2016, 09:03
+2 -2
I believe the students would have been happy and a sense of justice would have prevailed if a case of sexual harassment was initiated by the University. This smooth "conciliation game" may have taught the students some valuable lessons on the practice of law, but I wonder what legally binding value the "non disclosure agreement" has, if any (which depends on its terms). My guess is that it is neither enforceable nor leads to any serious consequence in the event it is breached.

Also, if the victim wants to really "punish" that professor who lacks decency, a criminal case should be registered for outraging the modesty of a woman, since the law does not permit a man to pass comments on the character of a woman based on her clothes.
Lex genie 11 Apr 2016, 09:37
+3 -3
There goes another jobless instigator.
Netaji 12 Apr 2016, 17:47
+0 -0
Have you read the law or just have a view of what the law ought to be?
What is happening? 10 Apr 2016, 18:39
+0 -0
Kian please give us the true picture. Multiple posters are alleging that they have been gagged, which is a blatant violation of constitutional rights. What is going on?
In Shorts 10 Apr 2016, 18:42
+4 -1
NLS continues to remain one of the only institutions (maybe the only one?) in Bangalore without a dress code. If anything, the administration is very lenient and from what I understand the professor has been suitably chastised and has been taken off the course. What more is needed? I don't see even the concerned students making any more demands, they seem to be quite satisfied, if a little irked by not being able to clarify that an apology has been made.
Disgusting 11 Apr 2016, 04:12
+4 -6
If a professor said this abroad he would have been SACKED and a possible sexual harassment case would have been instituted.
Diggy 11 Apr 2016, 05:52
+1 -1
If this will going to be your attitude!
Scooter- 11 Apr 2016, 05:56
+0 -0
Whats the point of quoting heavily from a one page letter which you have also uploaded for viewing?
kianganz 11 Apr 2016, 06:04
+13 -1
I was watching House of Cards last night yaar, had to put something in a quick news story that wasn't just a picture. :)

Also, accessibility for the visually impaired means text > pictures.
The observer 12 Apr 2016, 08:07
+0 -0
Good one Kian