1 call, 3 emails, 10 hours that rocked NUJS: How VC Ishwara Bhat was ousted, and why some are still concerned about the future

Sometimes just a good-ol fashioned protest may not be enough
Sometimes just a good-ol fashioned protest may not be enough

It’s the very early hours of Wednesday morning, and Prof Ishwara Bhat is awake. The NUJS Kolkata vice chancellor (VC) has barely three hours remaining until the students’ 9:00am, 28 March 2018 ultimatum calling for his resignation before the “passive” protest is scheduled to turn into an “active” one.

At 5:43am, Bhat presses send, replying to a two-day-old email from the NUJS’ Student Juridical Association (SJA), with: “Dear Students. I totally deny all the allegations made against me in the notice as they are untrue and unjustified.”

Only 17 minutes later, Bhat receives a reply from the SJA’s official email ID, and less than 10 hours later that same day, NUJS Kolkata’s vice chancellor of six years hands to students and faculty a signed letter of his resignation.

Much went down in those 10 hours.

The 3 emails

While the SJA denies that it had replied to Bhat, an over-enthusiastic protesting student, a sleep-deprived troll or possibly a current or former SJA member must have gained access to the official SJA email account and fired off two emailed responses, one of which copied in most faculty and the entire student body, noting that “only the few who are up at this hour”. We received a copy of the email thread by 6:12am.

And while the emails were not abusive of Bhat as such, they would prove controversial, with their content was later described as “uncouth” by a faculty member and it being fair to say that they certainly lacked the diplomacy that had been a hallmark of the students “passive” protests with “academic integrity” until that date.

The email, however ill-advised it may have been, noted that “we were planning to call you at 8.50 AM, but since you’re up, we will wake up our President right now so that he can call you on our behalf”.

And so, SJA president Arjun Agarwal duly calls Bhat some time before 9am that day, beginning by apologising for the email sent by “random students” who he says had “hacked” the SJA’s account, in a 16-minute phone conversation with Bhat.

In the call, a recording of which we have heard, Agarwal says that he would “probably find out who sent [Bhat] that email and also give them a moral lecture about not being so disrespectful to such an elderly and respected man”.

But Agarwal also used that phone conversation to hold a near-monologue at Bhat, alternating between conciliatory, emotional, respectful and assertive, that there was no other way left for Bhat but to simply hand over his resignation before 9am that day, and that Bhat had run out of lease on the patience that the law school’s students had extended him.

“In your seven years of running the college the college has gone into the grave,” an audibly emotional (and probably sleep-deprived) Agarwal tells Bhat. “Why don’t you understand? Even I want to understand I am crying in front of you… There is a lot of unrest in the student body sir we don’t want to miss classes. Sir why don’t you understand?”

Agarwal repeatedly questions Bhat:

  • on why he has not been able to recruit faculty for the last five years as the academic head of NUJS,
  • on why he wouldn’t address students in a SJA general body meeting “even after” the students signed not one but two no-confidence motions expressing loss of faith in his leadership,
  • on why he had “lied” to the SJA that he was not in receipt of the NUJS review commission report until February 2018, and,
  • most importantly, why he had excluded the students from representation on all of NUJS’ statutory bodies despite students requesting such representation, and the statutory bodies members being keen to hear out the students.

Agarwal tells Bhat during the call: “That [email] just represents the amount of frustration and anger that has come into students since they have come to know that you’re in Calcutta but didn’t even try to come and address our demands in an open and democratic fashion. You’re just running away from us is what most of the students feel.”

Eventually, Bhat responds to Agarwal, with: “I am not continuing, after the 7th [April] I will tender my resignation.”

Agarwal responds repeatedly, on the phone call with permutations of: “Sir, please resign right now, what are you waiting for the 7th?”

The morning starts in earnest

After that phone call, and the expiry of the 9am ultimatum, students start protesting “actively”, which includes shouting slogans outside the gate, raising banners asking for Bhat’s ouster, and more.

Chants of slogans such as “Ishawara Bhat Jaldi Hat”, among others, are heard and video livestreamed on Facebook.

Three faculty members - acting registrar and de-facto Secretary of the Executive Council Sarfaraz Ahmed Khan, EC member Prof Anirban Mazumdar, and assistant professor Saurabh Bhattacharjee - are liaising with students, telling them that Bhat would resign by the executive council meeting of 7 April, but not before. There is talk amongst faculty of letting him leave with “dignity” in his own time, but students do not believe that he necessarily will, so they demand an immediate resignation, but it in writing.

The clock is running against both students and the administration.

For students, other than the potential loss of lectures due to protests, probably the most important annual day in the law school calendar is coming up this weekend, with “Day Zero” of recruitments.

The administration, meanwhile, does not want protests to continue because several state dignitaries are expected this coming weekend.

Students are concerned. As Agarwal had pointed out to the VC in the phone chat, Bhat had seemingly made a career out of effectively stringing along the students for years, on topics such as an unfulfilled promise to carry out an effective faculty recruitment drive, or coming up with excuses to exclude student representation from NUJS’ statutory bodies.

One faculty member we spoke to, tells us on condition of anonymity: “I wouldn’t say that [while he was VC] he would not hear out any faculty or student wanting to meet him or speak to him about an issue or grievance, but having heard them he would go on to take no measures [to implement what was discussed].

“Now you can’t keep on doing this beyond one year or two.”

Eventually, however, the students’ misgivings find some traction, and three students led by Agarwal, and the three professors go to see Bhat at his residence.

Agarwal recounts: “We were called to his residence by the vice chancellor as he had decided to tender his resignation. When we met him, he gave us ‘gentleman’s promise’ that he will not, under any circumstances continue beyond 7th as the Acting VC. He also said he will be happy to spend time with his family.

“As a result, students have taken off every poster and called off the protest completely and hope there will be no betrayal like before. When at his residence, the registrar (acting) also assured us of physical representation in the next EC meeting on April 7.”

Agarwal & co leave his residence around 3:55pm with a letter in hand, signed by Bhat, in which he tenders his resignation effective 7 April.

Bhat’s wishes

While Bhat has not responded to our calls and messages seeking comment, it’s not altogether clear if Bhat even really wanted to stay at NUJS in the first place.

In 2016 applied for the top job to Karnataka State Law University (KSLU), Hubballi.

And of course, only earlier this month, he had been selected to be the next VC at CNLU Patna, as we had first reported, though he’s unlikely to take that up after students protested and Bhat apparently decided to continue at NUJS.

At the same time, Bhat had managed to cling on to the top job at NUJS against all odds, getting his term renewed in 2016, apparently after having struck an unpopular last-minute deal to appease the West Bengal (WB) state government by agreeing to open two new NUJS campuses.

However, Bhat may have attracted WB’s ire, after that plan was in 2017 shot down by the executive council (EC), eventually resulting in a watered-down proposal for NUJS to help open two new NLUs.

Against that backdrop, even more ominously to some students and faculty that we have spoken to, it is understood that now Bhat, as chair of NUJS’ finance committee (FC) is showing greater pro-activity than the average outgoing VC perhaps would.

Bhat has called a meeting of the FC for 2 April, just five days before his resignation takes effect.

The possible topic of discussion: the state government’s proposal to double NUJS’ student intake.

Was there another way out?

A major roadblock to Bhat achieving any sort of truce with the students or a reasonable way forward other than a cold exit was his own lack of engagement with them as stakeholders, according to campus sources we spoke to.

The demonstrations only begun around 10 AM on 28 March but as of the night of 27 March, the SJA had already moved the NUJS EC against Bhat. The SJA had asked for his dismissal from the post of VC in a 13-page petition listing grounds for their request and stating:

The Vice Chancellor has deliberately and immorally foreclosed any possibility of students finding out about not only the contents of these decision-making processes but also tried to make these processes of decision-making effectively invisible to the students. The incumbent Vice Chancellor’s reign has been marked with unilateral imposition of his despotic, undemocratic and authoritarian decisions on students, faculty and other employees.

Observing one of Bhat’s failings, one faculty member says that it is generally agreed within and outside the NUJS community that Bhat was not the most fluent in spoken communication - even Agarwal is heard on the call repeatedly checking with “hello? Sir are you even listening to me”.

One faculty commented: “I wouldn’t go so far as to say that [the student movement] was wrong. Even though not ideal in the manner [the movement was carried out] it was the best possible resort left to them and I am glad for them they did it.”

What next?

Agarwal cried to Bhat over phone on Wednesday morning that right now it is “really depressing for the entire student body of what has become of a really great institution”.

The presumption seems to be that Bhat almost single-handedly destroyed the greatness of NUJS. If Bhat’s resignation letter turns out different from his alleged administrative style, i.e. not containing empty promises, NUJS will be looking at the task of appointing not just a new VC but a VC who is ostensibly Bhat’s anathema in terms of restoring NUJS to its pre-Bhat glory.

“Right now whatever success students are gaining are not because of education but because of socialising, this is said in the report. Because the alumni are great, the students are hard-working and not because of the things that are taught within the college by the teachers,” Agarwal noted in his phone conversation with Bhat.

Agarwal tells us that the students are rooting for a VC with “a proven track record of getting good funding and getting teachers”.

According to several NUJS students we spoke to, Indian Law Institute (ILI) director Manoj Kumar Sinha, who was also one of the recommendations parallel to Bhat when he was first appointed as VC six years ago from Mysore University, would be a popular preference for students to succeed Bhat.

But it won’t be easy, acknowledge several students we have spoken to. That they could get someone “worse than Ishwara Bhat… was a very big concern even before we started,” said one student. “Maybe Ishwara Bhat is a bad guy, but even once he’s gone, as students we don’t have any power to influence the process.”

For now, the SJA has called for the the appointment of “unbiased interim Vice Chancellor with unimpeachable integrity who does not use his short stay at the University to prejudicially affect our long term interests (especially given we shall be on a holiday during this period and an Executive Council meeting is currently scheduled to take place in May).

“It would be ideal for a retired high court or Supreme Court judge to be appointed as the interim-vice chancellor in line with the recent examples of CNLU and NLIU. Since we want a good and worthy Vice Chancellor to be appointed soon, this will ensure that our long term interests are not compromised during the existing leadership vacuum.”

The SJA has also called for the postponement of the 2 April Finance Committee meeting, to a “date after the appointment of an interim Vice Chancellor.”

The SJA adds: “The Registrar (Acting) confirmed that the financial approval of the final building plan for the 18-storied residential complex will be tabled before the Finance Committee in the upcoming meeting. This development must be seen in the backdrop of the Executive Council’s decision for doubling the intake last year in a meeting over which the incumbent Vice Chancellor presided, to our own exclusion from the process of democratic decision-making.

“The Vice Chancellor is also a part of the Finance Committee and will represent us as our Vice Chancellor if this meeting were to take place before the appointment of an interim Vice Chancellor.”

And finally, the SJA has called for physical representation of the SJA on 7 April’s EC meeting (which has only happened once in recent years, after the controversial plan to set up new campuses in 2017):

The student body gets a physical representation in the Executive Council meeting on 7th April which shall be taking a call on the appointment of the interim Vice Chancellor and the constitution of a competent Selection Committee for selecting a new Vice Chancellor. In fact, this was assured to us by Registrar (Acting) at the Vice Chancellor’s residence that day. While it might be not in our place to suggest a candidate for the next Vice Chancellor, we believe that the criteria used for selection of the next Vice Chancellor should be made transparent and must strongly account for a proven track record of resource generation and a defined and clear vision for NUJS. This is the need of the hour given the overarching observations and recommendations of the Review Commission. We are currently in the process of personally reaching out to the EC members and working with the Registrar (Secretary to the EC) regarding both these agendas and ensuring the oral representation in that meeting.

It’s clear, for one, that students understand that this fight for the future of their beloved college, is far from over…

Bhat did not respond to our calls and messages seeking comment.

The full email from SJA to students dated 30 March, 19:07

The events over the course of this week have been an inspirational success story of the exemplary unity, determination and resilience in fighting for our cause and rights. It serves as a reminder that as long as we stick to legitimate means of realizing our rightful demands, the only way is forward.

However, at the cost of reiteration, our movement does not end with the resignation of Prof. Bhat. As we had decided from the very beginning, it was never about a person or a group of people as it has been portrayed by certain people with vested interests of late. His resignation was only the first step in our effort towards rebuilding our institution. In the long run, the movement is about ensuring the implementation of our valid concerns as acknowledged in the Review Commission report, under an institutional leadership that can carry out requisite structural and administrative reforms while accounting for every stakeholders’ legitimate concern.

Over the next week, we will work together to ensure three of our more immediate demands:

1) Appointment of an unbiased interim Vice Chancellor with unimpeachable integrity who does not use his short stay at the University to prejudicially affect our long term interests (especially given we shall be on a holiday during this period and an Executive Council meeting is currently scheduled to take place in May). It would be ideal for a retired High Court or Supreme Court judge to be appointed as the interim-Vice Chancellor in line with the recent examples of CNLU and NLIU. Since we want a good and worthy Vice Chancellor to be appointed soon, this will ensure that our long term interests are not compromised during the existing leadership vacuum.

2) Ideally, the Finance Committee meeting scheduled for 2nd April, 2018 be postponed to a date after the appointment of an interim Vice Chancellor. The Registrar (Acting) confirmed that the financial approval of the final building plan for the 18-storied residential complex will be tabled before the Finance Committee in the upcoming meeting. This development must be seen in the backdrop of the Executive Council’s decision for doubling the intake last year in a meeting over which the incumbent Vice Chancellor presided, to our own exclusion from the process of democratic decision-making. The Vice Chancellor is also a part of the Finance Committee and will represent us as our Vice Chancellor if this meeting were to take place before the appointment of an interim Vice Chancellor.

The Registrar (Acting) has assured us that at the very least all the developmental agenda, including the residential complex, can be deferred without any administrative hassle. He also assured us that he does not have an objection with student representatives being present in all future Finance Committee meetings.

We had also agreed to show our magnanimity by calling off the protest, taking off the posters and allowing the incumbent Vice Chancellor to complete the exit formalities and have a dignified exit on 7th on the understanding that he won’t represent our interests in any manner as our Vice Chancellor after tendering the resignation that day.

3) The student body gets a physical representation in the Executive Council meeting on 7th April which shall be taking a call on the appointment of the interim Vice Chancellor and the constitution of a competent Selection Committee for selecting a new Vice Chancellor. In fact, this was assured to us by Registrar (Acting) at the Vice Chancellor’s residence that day. While it might be not in our place to suggest a candidate for the next Vice Chancellor, we believe that the criteria used for selection of the next Vice Chancellor should be made transparent and must strongly account for a proven track record of resource generation and a defined and clear vision for NUJS. This is the need of the hour given the overarching observations and recommendations of the Review Commission. We are currently in the process of personally reaching out to the EC members and working with the Registrar (Secretary to the EC) regarding both these agendas and ensuring the oral representation in that meeting.

Given the inspirational and undeterred resilience we have shown so far, we are optimistic about the same, considering we have also petitioned the EC members already and the Review Commission report explicitly recommends a non-voting invitee status to the SJA President in the General Council meeting (The General Council comprising of the Chancellor (sitting Chief Justice of India) is the ultimate governing body of the University even above the Executive Council).

To sum up, during this this, it is important to honor our end of facilitating a dignified exit while at the same time, ensuring that the other end is also adequately fulfilled.

Warm Regards and Cautious Optimism,

Arjun Agarwal Samarth Sharma

(President) (Vice-President)

Comments

NLUDite 30 Mar 2018, 16:47
+8 -0
Hey Kian. Where are the emails sent by SJA to Bhat? I'm sure thats not confidential.
nujs 30 Mar 2018, 17:23
+2 -0
I'm sure they'll be up soon. Tbh you're not missing much - apart from an abrasive tone on one mail , they're pretty vanilla
FYI 31 Mar 2018, 07:05
+4 -16
Very wrong decision by students to heckle Hon'ble VC like this at gunpoint. It is a totally motivated protest without an iota of evidence. There should be strict action taken as per law against the protesting students.
RTI 31 Mar 2018, 07:55
+26 -1
Very wrong decision by trolls to heckle the students and the institution like this at keyboard-point. It is a totally motivated comment without an iota of logic or sense. There should be strict action taken as per law against the ugly trolls.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 10:31
+2 -0
LOOOL. Well said!
kianganz 31 Mar 2018, 10:01
+1 -2
Yeah, we thought about publishing the emails but I didn't think there was much public interest served in that, since the SJA has disowned the emails, and nothing in them was very scandalous, but they were just a bit immature in tone...
Angry 30 Mar 2018, 16:54
+15 -3
Let's get this straight. An autocrat rules for 7 years, commits hundreds of sins, refuses to be accountable, refuses to speak to the media, ruins an excellent university. His only "punishment" is submitting a resignation letter 10 days in advance but still resigning on the day he wishes too, on the terms he wishes to, and still chairing a finance committee. And some people are fussing over a supposedly "uncouth" email, criticising the protests and defending this guy??? SHAME ON YOU.
Bhaiya 30 Mar 2018, 17:10
+12 -7
@Angry: I fully get what you are saying and am equally angry at PIB, if not more. However, when it comes to the teachers' response to the mails or the protest, just to play Devil's Advocate here, perhaps they are also more concerned about the students and not about PIB? Which is why they are trying the way they know how to ask the students to be better than that man, whom everyone believes to be beyond redemption. I mean, I have no way of knowing whether that's the motive behind the teachers' responses that you are talking about. But I honestly don't believe most of these people to be against us, so maybe some benefit of doubt? I agree more of them could have shown support to help the movement, but they also did have inherent limitations of being employees of the institution, something which ties their hands unlike your or mine.
Guest 30 Mar 2018, 16:59
+6 -1
Why 7 April? He should have resigned right away and attended the meeting as a former VC. The students have been much too accommodating and will pay the price.
Pi 30 Mar 2018, 17:21
+14 -11
Get Protik Prakash Bannerjee, J to be on the search committee.
Bezouda 31 Mar 2018, 05:45
+6 -12
Please don't make that mistake
Observer 30 Mar 2018, 17:44
+14 -3
The next few days will see a lot of lobbying and dirty politics. The only hope for the SJA is to rope in the most respected legal figures in Calcutta, who have a direct stake in improving legal education in the state. The SJA should meet with the Calcutta HC Bar Library Club. The President of the Club is Jayanta Mitra, and its other members are leading barristers like Samaraditya Pal, Anindya Mitra, Ranjan Bachawat, Soumendranatah (Gopal) Mukherjee, Satyabrata (Jolu) Mukherjee, Sudipto Sircar, Pratap Chatterjee etc. Get someone to book a conference room at the Calcutta Club and call a meeting with all of them after court hours. Other influential people in the city (like the Khaitans) can be invited too. If the Bar Library Club sides with the SJA, no one can touch you.

Act now before it's too late!!
ConcernedNoojie 30 Mar 2018, 18:31
+12 -0
I have heard [...] is leaving for XLRI Jamshedpur. Is there another faculty exodus happening?
VP Watch 30 Mar 2018, 18:56
+3 -0
Yes, VP had applied long time back. With the VC gone, I don't see her not leaving if she gets an exception?
VP Watch 31 Mar 2018, 14:05
+1 -0
she gets an acceptance*.

I am talking about the Assistant Professor from Odisha.
Thanos 31 Mar 2018, 15:18
+1 -0
You have little idea about ground reality, I'm afraid. She's not going anywhere. Her relationship with PIB had soured quite some time ago.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 06:31
+1 -0
Who is leaving? Please use hints that can escape LI censorship filters.
they used initials 12 Apr 2018, 14:22
+0 -0
where do you put your money?
LawSchoolGirl 30 Mar 2018, 18:40
+11 -26
Looks like this is the official moment when NUJS became the No. 4 law school :-)
NUJS 30 Mar 2018, 19:12
+6 -3
[img]https://media0.giphy.com/media/3owzVUtsLceDOtpNE4/200.gif[/img]
LI Reader 31 Mar 2018, 05:29
+4 -14
Yes. That's true. NUJS is out of top 3 for sure. But we can't say it number 4 for sure. Its one of the contenders:

NALSAR
NLS
NLUD

No. 4 contenders:

NLUJ
NUJS
JGLS
GNLU
NLIU

Jindal as of now has better chance than other 4.
Bhaiya 31 Mar 2018, 06:27
+23 -0
We will see who has gone out of top 3 once the recruitment stats for this year are out ;) Incidentally, 15% of the NUJS batch already have PPOs. How many have the other...err...contenders have got again? And JGLS will never come up prominently up the ladder until students scoring high in CLAT start opting out of top NLUs and start going there. Given the fees, that's highly unlikely to happen anytime soon. Before then, regardless of the high paid faculty members or the umpteen MOUs, it can't simply have a discernible difference. Students and alumni make an institution, period.
Top Gun 31 Mar 2018, 07:42
+9 -0
Absolutely right. JGLS has excellent faculty members, including some star NLU grads, but privately they admit that they are unhappy with the students and would prefer to teach NLU students. The reasons they continue at JGLS are: a) NLUs are filled with dictator VCs, and b) fabulous salaries and perks. If NLUs offer any one of these two conditions, 50% of them will leave JGLS. If NLUs offer both these conditions 100% of them will leave JGLS overnight. It's actually quite sad. You have an array of well-qualified NLU grads there, but the students are too dumb to understand their classes. I am not lying. Just ask around
Pi 31 Mar 2018, 07:54
+4 -0
NUJS has fallen as much as it could fall, the only way now is to go up. If we look at all the metrics objectively and compositely (even the faculty-student ratios) NUJS would still be within the top three. As one of the commentators mentioned as long as top CLAT students choose NUJS over say NLIU or NLUJ the position of NUJS in the top 3 is secured.
NUJS greatness 30 Mar 2018, 19:27
+14 -4
1. NUJS will remain a great institution forever because of its proactive student body. The SJA (student association) is provided by the NUJS constitution itself.

A good VC can make NUJS even greater, but a bad VC won't harm it one bit.

This is not true for NLUD, NLIU Bhopal or NLU Jodhpur because they don't really have a student body.

2. NLUD inspite of having Ranbir Singh at the helm for 10 years hasn't done that well in terms of recruitment. It would come a distant fifth after NLSIU, NHJS, NALSAR, NLUJ, NLIU Bhopal.

Plus Ranbir Singh is not much of a believer in student democracy/participation.

So again, NLUD won't really challenge NUJS' no. 3 position for at least another 10 years.

3. NLIU Bhopal and NLU Jodhpur probably have worse VCs than Ishwara Bhat. Poonam Pradhan Saxena of NLUJ is surely worse.

The 59% state reservations at NLIU Bhopal weaken its position massively.

4. NUJS' recruitments have continued being solid throughout Bhat's tenure. They have been slightly better than even NLSIU and NALSAR.

Why? Students are damn smart, there is so much to do, and their alumni base is strong.

Plus thanks to the committees and societies being 'student-run' most noojies know the skill of getting things done. That's a skill not sold in the market!
drivel 31 Mar 2018, 10:48
+2 -6
What a load of bull? Why does everyone at NUJS feel so insecure about NLUD and its prospects? And if recruitment is the only standard to go by, then you might as well place NUJS on top of NLSIU. Also, what makes you think students at other places aren't smarter? That is a flawed parameter as well.
Bhaiya 31 Mar 2018, 11:20
+12 -0
@Drivel: Nobody is insecure about NLUD. It is doing well for a relatively new institution and has a batch of students just as smart and full of potential. This ranking war is a mindless no-percentage game played by either juveniles or people with hidden agendas. If Indian legal education is to develop properly, the institutions need to stick together and share their know-how and work towards nurturing the future generation of lawyers, borrowing each other's strength if necessary. Also, recruitment is certainly not the only metric, but it is still an important one, not because it proves institutional superiority or anything, but because it attracts the next batch of smartest students, majority of whom, like it or not, still come to law schools for a job at least to begin with. But even there, NLUD has not been doing badly at all. NLSIU, NALSAR, NUJS obviously have advantages such as more developed alumni base, but there are still plenty of jobs in the market for capable people. Incidentally, in case you are from NLUD, I appreciate the support your student body has shown to us during this movement.
Gossip 30 Mar 2018, 20:22
+8 -0
Possible candidates in the fray:

1) MK Sinha (ILI): A very good choice. Has admin experience, graduate of DU/JNU/Nottingham, taught at NUJS, from a modest background and lacks arrogance. Likely to support student aspirations.

2) V Vijayakumar (NLSIU): Not bad, but far from ideal.

3) T Ramakrishna (NLSIU): Same as above.

4) Sairam Bhat (NLSIU): Another Bhat from Mysore...

5)Amita Dhanda (NALSAR): Perennial candidate who is always approached by the search committee... and always turns them down.

6) Sudhir Krishnaswamy (Azim Premji): The most qualified of the lot academically and is currently in a small admin role, but quite opinionated and may also struggle with large admin problems.

7) VK Unni (IIM Calcutta, ex-NALSAR): Popular with students and already based in Calcutta. But not keen to leave IIM, also untested as an administrator. Holds an LLM from NALSAR, and would thus technically be the first alum of an NLU to be an NLU VC.
Concerned Noojie 31 Mar 2018, 03:44
+0 -11
Add Mr Amit Mishra to the list. Ex-Noojie credited for making the SJA what it is today. Unmatched credentials, impeccable integrity.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 06:24
+4 -0
You must be joking? He has nothing to do with academics and does not even have an LLM --- if we are talking about the same person.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 16:42
+1 -0
Let's be honest, the Prof+10 rule is bound to apply as a cut-off. That would leave a few interesting names, in order of 'first refusal' if I may say so:

1. [b]Amita Dhanda [/b]will retire from NALSAR, and has said so many times. NALSAR, post Ranbir Singh, was the only time she was interested in the post of VC.

2. I don't see [b]MK Sinha [/b]wanting to come back into the 'mad world' of a NLU. ILI has the calm and quiet needed for serious research, and a standing in Delhi that connects one to the political and judicial elite.

3. [b]VVK [/b]is the one who has been looking for a VC-ship, but he knows that both NLU-D & NLSIU are 'going on the market' in the next couple of years. He is bound to get the nod of the incumbent at Delhi.

4. Another option could be VCV (from NALSAR & Bennett). Again, he wouldn't be likely to sacrifice his huge pay package.

5. [b]VBR[/b] (current registrar at NALSAR). Can someone be potentially more harmful to an institution than PIB? This is your man. I would say he has a strong 'claim' (as the 'order' would view it) to the post. The admin experience will place him above...

6. [b]TRK [/b]- From the big-3 institutions, having the long standing insiders to NLUs, he would b the next in line.

...

Apart from these, if the Prof+10 rule isn't imposed. We might have some interesting names,

but [b]Sairam Bhat[/b]! Seriously!! No way he gets the nod. Limited intellectually, with a big ego to go.

However, long before he is looked towards, I would say [b]Sarasu Thomas[/b] shall be called upon. [i][b]1995 batch NLSIU, she should in all probability be the first NLU alum to become a VC[/b][/i].

[b]Sudhir Krishnaswamy[/b] will always be put down as an interesting pick, but again would he be interested?

There are a couple others in this set that can be considered, but all in all I don't believe that the cursed rule will be done away with.

Therefore, VVK > VBR > TRK or someone from outside the NLU circuit.
Gautham 1 Apr 2018, 10:54
+0 -2
Prof TR subramanya would be suitable for having extensive exposure as the former vc of the largest law university of the country. As an academician and administrator he is a body of excellence. He also has the reputation of being the legal advisor to a foreign government for nearly a decade.A man high on integrity and a non controversial. Probably having known the lacuna in NUJS worked as the director/ coordinator of CRSGPP can do justice to the development of NUJS.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 04:48
+4 -0
Among the few people in Bengal who are well-wishers of the students are Justice Protik Prokash Banerji, Justice Rume Pal, Mr Jayanta Mitra, Mr Ranjan Bachawat and Prof Sugata Bose (who introduce the NLU Bill in the Lok Sabha) and Khaitan & Co. And no, it was not Justice Pal who supported PIB's appointment, it was Justice Ganguly.
Bhaiya 31 Mar 2018, 06:41
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It doesn't matter who exactly pushed for PIB. Justice Pal was part of the search committee that had shortlisted 3 people for the position, one of whom was PIB and the other, an academic already convicted of sexual harassment and thrown out of av institution (Bibhute). Doesn't exactly fill us with confidence. Even if she didn't want to pick them, but allowed herself to be influenced by someone else as you suggested, I'd rather have members who can make up their own mind and act accordingly without influenced by others.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 06:22
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So many articles on Bhat but only one article on Lawrence Liang, who was found guilty of sexual harassment. And still no comment from Shamnad Basheer and NLSIU feminists like Menaka Guruswamy.
kianganz 31 Mar 2018, 10:17
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What else is left to say, really? Other newspapers have already published most details from the transcripts of the POSH committee, and the legal process around the complaint appears to have been effective so far. We currently don't have any additional information beyond what's already been reported.

Sure, maybe Liang was let off a tad lightly with a proverbial slap on the wrist, but compared to cases like Justice AK Ganguly or, in particular, Swatanter Kumar, which we both did take up quite strongly editorially and did a lot of original reporting on, the system here seems to have more or less worked the way it's supposed to thus far.

In short, I'm not sure what you expect us to do at this point other than sermonising and opinion columns, of which there are surely enough out there at present?
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 16:30
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Kian, I will tell you what to say. How about, as someone has pointed out, Liang has hired someone to whitewash his google search results and push down the pages on sexual harassment? https://twitter.com/NikhilCariappa1/status/979532465223036928

Or, how about the fact that he has misused his influence and also whitewashed it from his Wikipedia page, and then ensured that the page is locked from editing??? It is one fo 1152 pages on Wikipedia locked from editing? Really??? Is he that ****ing important???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Liang

This is important to cover because an incestuous elite leftist club is engaging in a conspiracy of silence to protect him. It is just shameful. Remember, Justice Ganguly resigned from NUJS. Many other harassers have been sacked, condemned etc. Yet, this guy brazenly gets away with it. And not one word from the same NSLIU-JNU elites who went after Justice Ganguly, who lecture on feminism. Sorry, but one report based on MSM reports is not enough. This man needs to be held accountable. No place for Harvey Weinsteins in academia.
kianganz 31 Mar 2018, 16:54
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This discussion is a bit off topic in comments here, but the Wikipedia bit is prima facie a bit worrying. FYI, for others interested, edits such as these seem to have been reverted repeatedly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lawrence_Liang&diff=833290337&oldid=833249515

One reason given in reverting those edits, some of which do seem mostly factual, was: "This is vandalism: preliminary results from an on going legal dispute should not be represented as fact in a biography of a living person."

I'm not 100% familiar with the morass of rules on Wikipedia on biographies of living people, etc, but there is the possibility that this is a typical Wikipedia edit war of established editors vs newcomers. Why don't you message me privately here: {contactus}

Would be helpful to discuss some more background on this.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 16:47
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To show us that you have the balls to have a legitimate go at the 'insiders' (to the law school circuit - i.e. your viewers) as well.

Call out the lack of expression, on way or the other, by their peers (a couple have been named above). If there has been such an expression of opinion indeed, then point that out.

Frankly, if I - someone with nothing to do with journalism - have to tell you this, then you aren't doing your job. You really should stuck to the old line of "we were busy" and "have limited staff" to wriggle out of this one.
Passing Thoughts 31 Mar 2018, 10:06
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Yes even I want to know what exactly journalists think about sexual harassment, is it only to jump in the bandwagon of #metoo, is it only a story for them or do they care? What are the causes journalists care for?
Passing Thoughts 31 Mar 2018, 10:39
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Kian answer my query also
Tweety 31 Mar 2018, 11:13
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Kian, I have been told some high-level insiders that PIB has no intention at all of moving out. He's now trying to argue that the resignation letter he wrote under stress, duress whatever and to lobby with the EC members for their support. He's even continuing to hold Finance Committee meetings etc. to discuss the Bengal Government's suggestion of increasing student intake, completely opposite of what the Review Commission recommended. That way he hopes to get government support within EC. The game is not over yet by any shot. I hope the students continue their movement without backing out. This man is truly shameless and it is clear that he values the chair much more than he does his remaining shred of dignity. #HopePIBistrulyout
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 15:54
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You are right. It was a mistake to let him off and not sack him that day itself.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 13:58
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Big plan before 7th meeting. Poor old chamchas of bhat (a, m, s, s) are active. Arjun Agarwal, why don't you organize his farewell on 7th itself?
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 15:53
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Fantastic idea! Organise a farewell and invite the EC.
LI Reader 31 Mar 2018, 14:59
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I am seeing overacting and overreacting of NUJS students for long. It got good quality students in the beginning. Some students left even NLS and Nalsar to join it. It became good because of them. But over a period of time, it has become mediocre both in faculty and student quality. All NLUs have faculty quality/shortage issue but NUJS seems to have more than this. Most of the good people/faculty left nujs and the remaining will leave it if they get jobs at other places looking at the way its students are treating their faculty and VC. Guys, respect your teachers whoever they are. Respect your VC whatever he is. You can prove all your points without being a lumpen or disrespectful. That's a thumb rule for a good institution. You are behaving like rowdies. Which good university student raise slogan like this against their VC - Ishawara Bhat Jaldi Hat. Do you guys call your father also like this if unhappy with him. You attack his dignity. If you were upset, go to court, go to chancellor, write against him. How can you abuse him publicly. If he was a VC of a conservative university like CU or DU/BHU, he would have called Police and para military to take care of your activism and throw you out of campus till things came under control. You should be thankful to him that he did not do all that. In my humble view, the student union and entire student body must collectively apologize to Prof. Bhatt whether he continues as VC or he goes. This is no way to treat a senior professor and an honourable position holder and a person of your grandfather's age. I can't digest, a top law school students can be so arrogant and disrespectful to use I am seeing overacting and overreacting of NUJS students for long. It got good quality students in the beginning. Some students left even NLS and Nalsar to join it. It became good because of them. But over a period of time, it has become mediocre both in faculty and student quality. All NLUs have faculty quality/shortage issue but NUJS seems to have more than this. Most of the good people/faculty left nujs and the remaining will leave it if they get jobs at other places looking at the way its students are treating their faculty and VC. Guys, respect your teachers whoever they are. Respect your VC whatever he is. You can prove all your points without being a lumpen or disrespectful. That's a thumb rule for a good institution. You are behaving like rowdies. Which good university student raise slogan like this against their VC - Ishawara Bhat Jaldi Hat. Do you guys call your father also like this if unhappy with him. You attack his dignity. If you were upset, go to court, go to chancellor, write against him. How can you abuse him publicly. In my humble view, the student union and entire student body must collectively apologize to Prof. Bhatt whether he continues as VC or he goes. This is no way to treat a senior professor and an honourable position holder and a person of your grandfather's age. I can't believe, a top law school students of the country - Ishwar Bhatt, Jaldi Hat. Shameful and disgusting.
Thanos 31 Mar 2018, 15:15
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@LI Reader: So eager to troll that you couldn't see how your words roll, buddy?
Pi 31 Mar 2018, 15:31
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ummm... I guess they have been writing for sometime now - I hear there were a few no confidence motions against PIB. Have you ever been to Presidency college student protests? VC will never call police even in CU, just look at what happened to JU VC when he called police...he was sacked by Didi in 12 hours.
Guest 31 Mar 2018, 15:57
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Not cool 31 Mar 2018, 17:03
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While student protest against PIB was inevitable and also the only option left, we have been told that some students have been actively trying to intimidate or deride teachers whom they 'believe' to be supporting the VC, simply because those teachers had not been sympathetic towards the strike. Which includes juvenile acting out and hooliganism. That's really, really not cool. Whether one is a good teacher or a bad teacher is also not relevant. The students did show a lot of maturity on the day of the protest in terms of behaviour with faculty. If some are trying to derail all that, it's actually going to do our movement more harm than good.
Noojie 31 Mar 2018, 23:14
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Hey, why don't you also publish the contents of the latest email sent out by the SJA strongly condemning these non-state actors (so to speak).

This is clearly an attempt by the same faculty members to deligitimise the movement and alienate the students from their reps.

Shameful!
Not Cool 1 Apr 2018, 02:57
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@Noojie: Not exactly sure how this is an attempt on the part of any faculty member when it's the shameful action of some students that we are talking about. It is quite convenient to say whatever good happens/gets done by students is driven by SJA leadership and whatever bad gets done are the unauthorized actions of 'non-state actors', as you said. You know whose tactics that reminds me of? The same person against whom we are all protesting. Our 'not-so-honourable' VC, PIB. As I said, the movement will be delegitimized by such foolish actions, not by anything else. If we are asking admin to take responsibility for its action and inaction and leave, the least we can do is to ensure that we also take responsibility for any and every side effect of our own actions (and that includes all the students). That's just maturity, like it or not.
Guest 1 Apr 2018, 04:15
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This is totally untrue. Stop spreading lies on behalf of the M Mafia and tell the to leave NUJS.
Not cool 1 Apr 2018, 04:44
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@Guest: Which part of it is untrue, exactly? The fact that some students locked a teacher in his room and shouted slogans and slangs at him from outside where they could not be seen? I really wish it was. Unfortunately, that's what has happened. Regardless of how you or I feel about it. And again, one faculty like that is worth many of the sub-standard ones who are sitting on the sidelines and watching the show. I don't agree with his stance on the protest either, but I at least go about showing that in a civil manner. You obviously don't care about matters like civility any more and would like to equate PIB with SB. Goes to show your level of immaturity, nothing else. I'd rather you move out than he does if that's the case. Keep doing this and the celebrated alumni and faculty whom we all wish to attract to this place subsequently for everyone's benefit, will also start thinking twice before coming down, because the moment you disagree with anything they say, this will probably be your method of showing discontent. If Kian wants to fact-check what I said, he totally can, because I know what I said is the truth. Can you claim the same?
Guest 1 Apr 2018, 04:21
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Beware: All the negative comments here are being posted by the Mafia to distract attention. As has been pointed out, PIB has not given up and is planning a counterstrike with the Mafia. Just wait for the FC and EC meetings --- everyone will be shocked.
Tweety 1 Apr 2018, 04:50
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@Guest: If you scroll up the comments, you will see that I was the person who has earlier mentioned this attempt on PIB's part. Needless to say, I hate such attempts and hope to prevent it together with all my fellow students. However, what Not Cool said is also true, at least the factual part about a faculty member having been thus treated. If you are someone from NUJS, you would know the same, as did Noojie (18.1). Please don't spread paranoia in the name of a good cause. Our cause is strong enough not to have to resort to such things. We can get PIB out and make things better for NUJS while remaining civil and behaving responsibly at the same time. We have shown that on 28th, let's keep holding ourselves to that standard.
Guest 1 Apr 2018, 19:18
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You are betraying the one who gave you this job at NUJS
Tweety 2 Apr 2018, 03:13
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Funny, I always thought PIB is the one who got a job, the salary of which is being paid from money we pay to the university as fees. You know, hence the accountability part?
TweTie 1 Apr 2018, 07:19
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Bhat is here till 11th. It's confirmed by a highly valuable asset of Bhat. #sja
#bhatmadeusfool
Bhaiya 1 Apr 2018, 07:50
+2 -0
By highly valuable asset, do you mean his driver? :D
Reporter 4 Apr 2018, 08:22
+2 -5
NEWS FLASH: 99% confirmed. The next VC of NUJS will be V Vijaykumar of NLSIU.

More updates to follow.
PIB 4 Apr 2018, 15:52
+2 -1
Fake news spotted! Seize his accreditation at once!
Ghost 7 Apr 2018, 11:32
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He is joining RMLNLU next week.